Posted on 09/03/2014 6:36:07 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
Those were my thoughts as well. It is just more evidence that Catholicism is based on made up stories.
But who was the intercessor at the Wedding of Cana?
Who said, “Do whatever he tells you.”
She always defers things to her son.
Are you not believing this in the Bible?
Mary had one son, Jesus Christ.
IIRC James was killed.
I have often written on this Forum defending the Catholic religion from biased posts by Protestants and Evangelicals. Time to be fair -- the Mary doctrine isn't the problem here; the problem is that it is couched in this falsely righteous little story about Protestants saying Mary was "just a common woman" and that the protagonist's sister "would sooner pierce [her own child's] heart with a dagger than allow him to embrace the religion of the Popes!”
Come on, now. That characterization is just nasty, and not at all how the vast majority of non-Catholic Christians see their view of Mary or of Catholicism.
Is that mentioned in the Bible? What about Joses, Judas, and Simon?
LOL! I was just responding to what he wrote. “more for me” indicates a limited amount to be shared. And the quoted part came from his post, not mine.
I know, right? It really gets tiresome, both sides. And don't lets get started on the Mormon flame wars, either. And people wonder why we are called "the stupid party."
Your not fooling anyone other than other Catholics. One only needs to go to Catholic prayer sites to see that Catholics indeed do pray TO Mary asking her to do things. The words of those prayers assume she has the same powers as God has. Catholics need to stop using that "we don't pray to her" line. By the Catholic Churches own admission they do indeed pray TO Mary.
Except inasmuch as they claim that Mary was sinless. Only Christ was sinless.
Mary was a sinner, just like you and I and every other human being who has ever lived on this earth, excepting only the Son of God.
There are no other exceptions, including Mary.
To claim that Mary was not deified is to tacitly accept the fact that she, too, was a sinner, just like all the other Saints.
Why Catholics find it necessary to cling to such an obvious fallacy as the sinlessness of Mary is beyond me. Nothing said regarding Mary in the New Testament supports the outlandish notion that she was somehow a second example of a sinless human being. That characteristic adheres solely to Christ, and there is absolutely no basis for extending the concept beyond Him.
Indeed, the sinlessness of Mary is a man made addition to scripture, and as such, it is a false teaching.
It's unfortunate that the Catholic Church has so heavily conditioned its membership into believing such a clearly man-made doctrine.
IMHO, it is an example of the intrusion of Goddess mythology into Christendom...
God the Father honored Mary to be be the Ark of the Convent to carry His Son. If the Catholic Church accepts that the Father made Mary perfect, I’m not going to disagree with the Father either.
Asking HER to enlighten??? I thought Catholics claim they don't pray TO Mary. Scripture teaches that it's the task of the Holy Spirit to enlighten. So here we have evidence of Catholics not only praying TO Mary but ascribing to her attributes of God. The deceptions Catholics try to perpetrate are astounding.
Are you trying to second-guess God? God, at the very beginning of the world picked Mary as the Mother o Christ. Through him she was spared from original sin so that she could be a holy abode for the infant, Jesus, growing within her.
Prayers that you will someday understand.
We ask her to pray for us and for others.
This incredibly bigoted statement says all any non-Catholic Christian needs to know about you.
Again, you are projecting a false argument. I never said one cant pray to Jesus. A person can pray to whoever or whatever they want.
Jesus taught that we should go directly to the Father and pray to him.
That's not surprising. The Catholic Church has declared that Muslims and Catholics serve the same god.
“Again, you are projecting a false argument.”
No, I am not doing in that in the least.
“I never said one cant pray to Jesus.”
I didn’t say you did. I asked a question if you were saying that. That’s why I used a question mark.
“A person can pray to whoever or whatever they want.”
Not morally he can’t.
“Jesus taught that we should go directly to the Father and pray to him.”
But we can only accomplish that through Christ and His power for He is the mediator between God and man. That is true even of His saints. Asking for their intercession before the throne is only accomplished through the mediatorship of Christ which He shares with His perfected saints.
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