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The Hail Mary of a Protestant
http://www.abouttherosary.com ^ | September 3, 2014 | Robbe Lyn Sebesta

Posted on 09/03/2014 6:36:07 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: CynicalBear

Augustine

We must except the Holy Virgin Mary, concerning whom I wish to raise no question when it touches the subject of sins, out of honor to the Lord; for from Him we know what abundance of grace for overcoming sin in every particular was conferred upon her who had the merit to conceive and bear Him who undoubtedly had no sin (Nature and Grace 36:42 [A.D. 415]).


161 posted on 09/03/2014 11:12:02 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: ealgeone

I recommend either the RSV-CE (Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition) or the Douay-Rheims.


162 posted on 09/03/2014 11:12:42 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Salvation

Honor your father and your mother is one of the 10 Commandments.


163 posted on 09/03/2014 11:14:23 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: CynicalBear

“It is a sweet and pious belief that the infusion of Mary’s soul was effected without original sin; so that in the very infusion of her soul she was also purified from original sin and adorned with God’s gifts, receiving a pure soul infused by God; thus from the first moment she began to live she was free from all sin.”
Martin Luther, (Sermon: “On the Day of the Conception of the Mother of God,” 1527).


164 posted on 09/03/2014 11:18:35 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: CynicalBear

Children listening to God in the Bible, Samuel, and Jesus was 12 when teaching the Rabbis in the Temple.


165 posted on 09/03/2014 11:19:12 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: CynicalBear

Scripture doesn’t say Mary was. It says she was “favored”. It does say Stephen was “ full of grace” but not sinless.


Ok, I see what you mean and you are right.


166 posted on 09/03/2014 11:25:57 AM PDT by ravenwolf (nd)
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To: NKP_Vet
I recommend either the RSV-CE (Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition) or the Douay-Rheims.

Those are not the best translations.

NASB is the most literal translation available, then you're lookingt at the Greek.

167 posted on 09/03/2014 11:28:03 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: laotzu

LOL, I was a Protestant for the first 46 years of my life and then I had a loooong talk with Jesus and He made it as clear as day that I must become a Catholic.

Believe me, I resisted. I studied and I learned and even when I knew without a doubt that I needed to become Catholic, I dragged my feet for TEN years. In the end I had to have that last little push and when I became a Catholic, Jesus rewarded me by converting my husband and my son and his family and many of my DIL’s family.

God is good and anyone who loves God becomes good because of God and anyone who has run the race and never lost sight of God is good enough to pray for me.

Of course I pray to Jesus! I don’t think you understand how much a fervent Catholic prays. I pray several hours a day and I pray for anyone and any situation that I think needs God’s hand.

There are also a lot of things out there that I can do by volunteering and helping people and the Church and I’m also active doing those things several hours a day and I consider that another prayer or in some cases the answer to someone’s prayer.

My voice is not minor, God knows every hair on my head, I don’t have to speak a prayer to be heard by Jesus. I rarely pray for myself unless things are happening. I say prayers of adoration, contrition and thankfulness. I pray memorized prayers and spontaneous prayers. I pretty much have a running dialogue going most days.

If I hear anyone has died, I stop and pray for their souls, if I hear someone is sick I stop and pray, many times when I get on FR I spend the first 15 minutes praying just as I scan the headlines.

So yes, I pray to Jesus, I walk with Him 24/7, I go to sleep praying and I awake praying and I pray that all the saints and angels are praying with me too.


168 posted on 09/03/2014 11:31:05 AM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki

Awesome testimony. Thanks and I am glad to know you.


169 posted on 09/03/2014 11:34:21 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: NKP_Vet
I know very few will take the time to read the following, ultimately they care only for their religion, in where they think themselves so very special:

Whether they be Catholic, Protestant or any other so-called christian religion, they all fail. Just a very few of thousands of scriptures they all fail to understand and believe, Oh and know this Christ is not a Religion he is:

the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ

Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

1 Corinthians 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

1 Corinthians 3:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

Romans 12:16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.

Philippians 2:2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.

 

 

170 posted on 09/03/2014 11:48:23 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: ealgeone
Dude, it's more than in spirit you catholics pray and worship Mary

If someone wants to know what you believe, they should ask you, right? Not someone else. It's just common sense, and respect. You don't want someone else telling me what you believe. You want to say it yourself, in your own words, and to be able to clarify what you're saying if there's any misunderstanding.

So if you want to know what the Catholic Church believes, ask the Catholic Church. Not someone else. It's easy enough. The Vatican's website is available to all. If you do, and you take the time to understand, rather than hear what we say in terms of what someone else told you we believe, you'll come to understand that we do NOT worship Mary.

171 posted on 09/03/2014 11:50:50 AM PDT by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: scouter
...."we do NOT worship Mary".....


172 posted on 09/03/2014 12:07:51 PM PDT by caww
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To: ravenwolf; CynicalBear

The angel Gabriel said, “Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you” (Luke 1:28). The phrase “full of grace” is a translation of the Greek word kecharitomene. It therefore expresses a characteristic quality of Mary.

The traditional translation, “full of grace,” is better than the one found in many RECENT versions of the New Testament, which give something along the lines of “highly favored daughter.” Mary was indeed a highly favored daughter of God, but the Greek implies more than that (and it never mentions the word for “daughter”). The grace given to Mary is at once permanent and of a unique kind.Kecharitomene is a perfect passive participle of charitoo, meaning “to fill or endow with grace.” Since this term is in the perfect tense, it indicates that Mary was graced in the past but with continuing effects in the present. So, the grace Mary enjoyed was not a result of the angel’s visit. In fact, Catholics hold, it extended over the whole of her life, from conception onward. She was in a state of sanctifying grace from the first moment of her existence.

She, herself exclaims that Christ is her Savior. In the Scripture we read that “all have sinned” (Rom. 3:23). Besides, they say, Mary said her “spirit rejoices in God my Savior” (Luke 1:47), and only a sinner needs a Savior.

Let’s take the second citation first. Mary, too, required a Savior. Like all other descendants of Adam, she was subject to the necessity of contracting original sin. But by a special intervention of God, undertaken at the instant she was conceived, she was preserved from the stain of original sin and its consequences. She was therefore redeemed by the grace of Christ, but in a special way—by anticipation.

Remember that “nothing is impossible for God.”

Consider an analogy: Suppose a man falls into a deep pit, and someone reaches down to pull him out. The man has been “saved” from the pit. Now imagine a woman walking along, and she too is about to topple into the pit, but at the very moment that she is to fall in, someone holds her back and prevents her. She too has been saved from the pit, but in an even better way: She was not simply taken out of the pit, she was prevented from getting stained by the mud in the first place. This is the illustration Christians have used for a thousand years to explain how Mary was saved by Christ. By receiving Christ’s grace at her conception, she had his grace applied to her before she was able to become mired in original sin and its stain.


173 posted on 09/03/2014 12:09:59 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: RetiredArmy

Have you forgotten Genesis?

English Standard Version (ESV)
26 Then God said, “Let us make man[h] in our image, after our likeness,

OK, who is the “us”??

To me it’s always meant the Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit — all there at the very beginning.


174 posted on 09/03/2014 12:12:09 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: caww

Thank you for posting such good pictures demonstrating how Catholics honor Mary and frequently ask for her intercession. The Woman, who at Cana, told those present to “Do what He tells you,” is a wonderful intercessor. ;=)


176 posted on 09/03/2014 12:13:57 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: defconw

**Take the Blessed Mother or leave her, but leave us none the less, as we will keep her. **

Amen!


177 posted on 09/03/2014 12:14:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: caww


178 posted on 09/03/2014 12:17:12 PM PDT by caww
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To: SumProVita

It’s to demonstrate that some catholics do indeed commit idolaty by bowing down to an idol...as well as praying to and worshipping Mary.


179 posted on 09/03/2014 12:18:31 PM PDT by caww
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To: CynicalBear

**sratled**

new word?


180 posted on 09/03/2014 12:19:09 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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