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The Hail Mary of a Protestant
http://www.abouttherosary.com ^ | September 3, 2014 | Robbe Lyn Sebesta

Posted on 09/03/2014 6:36:07 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: Albion Wilde; NKP_Vet

On the local Catholic radio program (Relevant Radio) a fill in for the “Go ask your Father” show said that muslims will be saved easier than Protestants because they love Mary and believe in doing good works.

When you put Mary above faith in Jesus, you have a huge problem.


81 posted on 09/03/2014 9:06:39 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

Sounds more like someone inventing their own theology than anything else. He certainly wasn’t passing on Catholic teaching if you understood him properly.


82 posted on 09/03/2014 9:08:43 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Salvation

I am a believer in the Bible and the Bible tells us that Jesus said to pray directly to God. So given the choice of following the teachings of Jesus or following the teachings of anyone else, I choose to follow the teachings of Jesus.

Mary was, is and will always be a daughter of Adam. She, like the rest of us, is tainted by sin. And it is by the intercession of Jesus that she is made holy (blessed). That same intercession is afforded to all that believe in Jesus and accept him as their savior. As such, Mary is man (generic sense) like the rest of us. Praying to her is no different than praying to your priest or neighbor or some distant relative. God is all powerful, so go to the source.


83 posted on 09/03/2014 9:10:26 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: CynicalBear

“The Catholic Church has declared that Muslims and Catholics serve the same god.”

Are you sure?

The Catholic Church says: “841 The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”

Acknowledge, profess and adore. I don’t see “serve” anywhere in there.


84 posted on 09/03/2014 9:11:11 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Salvation
Are you trying to second-guess God?

No, but Catholic dogma apparently is.

God, at the very beginning of the world picked Mary as the Mother of Christ.

True.

Through Him [Mary] was spared from original sin

False. And nobody can cite any scripture which logically and reasonably supports the drawing of such an outlandish conclusion.

All have sinned, and fallen short of the Glory of God. All.

Christ was God. Mary was not. As Blessed as she was, she was still a sinner, just like you, me, and every Saint that ever lived.

There is absolutely no scriptural basis for claiming otherwise. Such claims represent the height of whimsical, man-made supposition. Wishing them to be true does not make them so.

85 posted on 09/03/2014 9:11:32 AM PDT by sargon
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To: NKP_Vet; Salvation
I am also Catholic who always had a profound respect and reverence for Mary mother of Jesus Christ. Recently I saw a video on YouTube about a priest who had a near death experience.

youtube.com/watch?v=QqiqO5BzH74

He was condemned to hell by Christ for not being the Priest he should have been when he said he heard a women's asking Jesus to give the priest a second chance. Jesus said "Mother he didn't live his life for Me but for himself". Mary then says "Give him special Graces to help do what he needs to do and if he (priest) fails again Your "Will" will be done (damnation)."

Watching this had a Profound effect on me! Every time I pray the Hail Mary or a Rosary it has ALOT more meaning for me.

86 posted on 09/03/2014 9:11:39 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: sargon
IMHO, it is an example of the intrusion of Goddess mythology into Christendom...

Nimrod & wife Semiramis (Nimrod built Tower of Babel and started the spread of false religions of ancient world. The god & goddess of these false religions were called various names as they spread from ome empire to the next)
Egypt: Osiris & Isis
Assyria: Assur & Ishtar
Babylon: Bel & Belit
Persia: Mithra & Anahita
Greece: Helios & Artemis
Rome: Apollo & Diana (See: Acts 19:35)
Bible: Moloch & Ashteroth, queen of heaven; in Acts 7:43 are called Moloch and Rephan

87 posted on 09/03/2014 9:12:27 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("LEX REX." ("The law is the king.") -- Samuel Rutherford)
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To: vladimir998

That is why I was honestly stunned.

The caller asked him to clarify, and he doubled down in say that muslim will be saved because of their good works and love of Mary.

Relevant radio used to be pretty good. I listen to in on occasion on my drive to lunch (the priest, Father Rocky I think, who normally does “Go ask your Father” is a hoot).

But things have changed. Once Francis did the prayer with the imam in the Vatican, it became very pro islam.


88 posted on 09/03/2014 9:12:43 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Salvation
>>We ask her to pray for us and for others.<<

You just posted, and I pointed out to you, that in addition Catholics ask her to directly do things for them that scripture teaches is a function of God. Catholics can delude themselves all they want but need to realize they aren't deluding Spirit filled Christians.

89 posted on 09/03/2014 9:14:40 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: DesertRhino

The bleetings be upon him prophet of Islam most likely stole some of the beliefs of area Christians and put them in the Koran. Nestorianism was very influential in that area in his time and that explains the Koran’s writing that Jesus was only a prophet and not God himself. This borrowing from Christianity also explains the esteem in which the Virgin Mary is held.


90 posted on 09/03/2014 9:14:49 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: NKP_Vet

My goodness, such stilted language from a purported six year old boy.


91 posted on 09/03/2014 9:15:05 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: vladimir998

The “saints” are dead. The Apostles are dead. Mary is dead.

The Bible teaches that praying to the dead is sin and morally wrong. It further teaches that the dead know nothing (Ecclesiastes 9: 5-6). Jesus teaches that we should pray directly to God.


92 posted on 09/03/2014 9:18:20 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: NKP_Vet
Not the protestant Martin Luther. He had a great devotion to the Blessed Mother. So protestants pick and choose what they liked about Luther and disregard the rest.

Oh my, poor ol' Martin's back in favor with the FR Catholic contingent. Love, hate, love, hate, it's enough to make this childhood Lutheran's head spin.

Is there some secret code that triggers the Luther pivot?

93 posted on 09/03/2014 9:18:56 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: painter

https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AtUI.sOWDMN0dYEC_TClCw6bvZx4?p=youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQqiqO5BzH74&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-901&fp=1

Powerful.......tears in my eyes.


94 posted on 09/03/2014 9:19:15 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: vladimir998

Nice try Vlad. Weak at best but nice try.


95 posted on 09/03/2014 9:19:18 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: ecomcon

Nothing like a straw man argument.


I agree.

The angel said Hail Mary nothing more than a greeting.

Full of grace.

God found her to be fit to raise his son.

Blessed among women, she was not blessed because she bare the son of God but baring the son of God is how she was blessed.

She was blessed more than any other woman and Jesus was her blessing.


96 posted on 09/03/2014 9:20:53 AM PDT by ravenwolf (nd)
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To: redgolum
The caller asked him to clarify, and he doubled down in say that muslim will be saved because of their good works and love of Mary.

No one can achieve salvation through works. Nor sentiment. Only by acceptance of the gift of grace, in gratitude for which we atone for our sins, recognize and accept the one means of Salvation: Jesus Christ, the very God Who sent an aspect of Himself to earth in the form of a man so that we could understand His will -- through Christ's teachings.

97 posted on 09/03/2014 9:22:02 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("LEX REX." ("The law is the king.") -- Samuel Rutherford)
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To: sargon

https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AtUI.sOWDMN0dYEC_TClCw6bvZx4?p=youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQqiqO5BzH74&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-901&fp=1


98 posted on 09/03/2014 9:23:27 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: taxcontrol

A feast is made for laughter,
wine makes life merry,
and money is the answer for everything.


99 posted on 09/03/2014 9:23:56 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Salvation
Powerful.......tears in my eyes.

YUP

100 posted on 09/03/2014 9:24:00 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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