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Weep for slaughtered Christians, not for dialogue with Islam
Catholic Culture.org ^ | August 29, 2014 | By Phil Lawler

Posted on 08/30/2014 11:23:26 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Mrs. Don-o

Very wrong.


21 posted on 08/30/2014 1:40:27 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Amazing links there.


22 posted on 08/30/2014 1:41:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
I'm sure the Catechism states there is a thing as a just war and a time for conflict when all other reasonable efforts for peace become futile.

The Pope himself has called on the world to ‘do something’ about the butchery against Christians by uslimes, implying military or warlike action.

Church teaching doesn't change no matter what a man says. Or woman for that matter.

23 posted on 08/30/2014 1:51:10 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
What You [Catholics] Need to Know: Just War [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]

24 posted on 08/30/2014 1:57:01 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

What Christians need to do is insure that the Muslims pay a bigger toll in their Christian killing raids than what they get.

They are going to be killed any way so why should they be afraid to fight back?

If your enemy is coming at you with an ax there is nothing to consider except get them first.


25 posted on 08/30/2014 2:02:07 PM PDT by ravenwolf (s)
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To: Salvation

I’ve said before that I have long ago come to despise words like “dialogue”, “collaboration”, “social justice”, etc., etc., just to name a few. There are many more— catch phrases that shout socialism, and broadly label the Catholic heirarchy as thoroughly detached-from-reality— laughable, and discredited.

Worse, the aforementioned words are usually applied to killers, killing, or to killer nations. Abortion purveyors and providers even borrow the use of these words, along with Marxists and socialist politicians.

These namby pamby words are symptomatic of modernism doing its best to kill the Church in the West. Very painful.


26 posted on 08/30/2014 2:13:33 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Salvation

If anyone finds any “innocent moslems,” I’m fine with not killing them. As long as they abandon their satanic religion.


27 posted on 08/30/2014 2:17:18 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Salvation

I keep telling myself that the current Church crop of “elder statesmen” will be gone soon. I tell myself that the up and coming generation are men who are not under the spell of the “spirit” of Vatican II, and they will lead with a true understanding of what confronts us. Otherwise, we’re lost.


28 posted on 08/30/2014 2:30:14 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
You are not well informed. There is Evangelical-Muslim Dialogue (LINK), and has been for many decades.

Informed enough...Evangelical doesn't automatically mean Christian any more than Catholic does...

29 posted on 08/30/2014 3:02:03 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Salvation
I trust that rational readers recognize the problem here.

Yes rational readers do recognize the problem.

30 posted on 08/30/2014 3:09:17 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Salvation

I support the Popes in their calls for dialogue but more and more understand why the Crusades were called. Pope Benedict did nail the main problem with Islam in Germany in 2006 but didn’t seem to receive a lot of support for speaking the truth in a PC world.


31 posted on 08/30/2014 3:12:07 PM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: Iscool

No True Scotsman!


32 posted on 08/30/2014 3:21:28 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Fides et Ratio.)
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To: Salvation
The US bishops’ conference, in statement released shortly after the brutal murder of James Foley was posted on the internet, reiterated the desire for dialogue with Islam and lamented that some Catholics have lost interest in that inter-faith conversation.

It is very easy to lose interest when you are dealing with evil. There can be no dialogue. It is like trying to negotiate with a bunch of Orcs!

33 posted on 08/30/2014 3:57:28 PM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: Salvation
Tell them that we are interested in dialogue, but only if they disassociate themselves completely from those who incite, commit, or justify sectarian violence.

"Let believers not take for friends and allies infidels instead of believers. Whoever does this shall have no relationship left with Allah – unless you but guard yourselves against them, taking precautions." (Quran 3:28; see also 2:173; 2:185; 4:29; 22:78; 40:28.)

How can there ever be sincere dialogue between Christians who abide by the Eighth Commandment and Muslims who engage in taqiyya?

Jesus charges us to "Be ye therefore wise as serpents and simple as doves". This requires the wisdom to recognize the basic fact that practitioners of taquiyya are too deceptive to engage in honest dialogue with Christians.

Contrasting "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" Quran (8:12) vs. the statement from the US Bishops Conference: "We understand the confusion and deep emotions stirred by real and apparent acts of aggression and discrimination by certain Muslims against non-Muslims, often against Christians abroad" underscores the ludicrous disconnect between naive, delusional churchmen and the bloody reality of Islam which is on display daily right outside their ivory towers. Their wimpy, foolish statement reduces the existential struggle between the followers of Christ and the religion of pieces to a stream of psycho-babble.

34 posted on 08/30/2014 4:21:59 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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Islam is a war plan.


35 posted on 08/30/2014 5:12:55 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: MichaelCorleone

There is a just war, and the war against these radical militias (of which ISIS is the best known, but not the only one) is by definition just.

Some of the Christians in Syria have been fighting very hard, and giving their lives in the struggle against evil. However, they under sanctions, by the UN and EU. The Western world has supported these militias time and again - that is what needs to stop. Recognised governments, such as of Libya and Syria, have been put down in favor of the rights of insurgents. The Christian did not seem to notice the ill-effects of this, until it spread into Iraq.


36 posted on 08/31/2014 1:16:47 AM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: Salvation
I pray or them.
PRAYERS.
37 posted on 08/31/2014 6:45:20 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Salvation; All

I was going through the Catholic News Service this morning, I found this story from 2008 where a Chaldean Bishop was kidnapped and killed and one can read the story for itself.

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0801432.htm

That war is a maze, now we have a moral responsibility. It’s all very troubling. But back in 2003, I guess Pat (Buchanan) was right.


38 posted on 08/31/2014 10:06:52 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

I posted something yesterday about praying the Rosary. Let me find it.


39 posted on 08/31/2014 10:11:45 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BeadCounter; nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; ...

CATHOLIC ALMANAC

Saturday, August 30

Liturgical Color: Green

On this day in 1884 Pope Leo XIII issued
the encyclical Superiore Anno urging all
the faithful to pray the rosary for the
Church. He said in times of trial, the
Rosary is the best way to gain God’s
blessings for the Church and her
members.


40 posted on 08/31/2014 10:15:45 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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