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An Open Letter to Duggar Defenders - "you likely do not understand the Duggar’s subculture"
The Aquila Report ^ | 8-25-14 | Libby Anne

Posted on 08/26/2014 9:23:43 AM PDT by fishtank

An Open Letter to Duggar Defenders The problem real here is that you very likely do not understand the Duggar’s subculture

Written by Libby Anne | Monday, August 25, 2014

The Duggars are part of a very specific subculture of the Christian homeschooling world, one dominated by leaders like Doug Phillips of Vision Forum and Bill Gothard of ATI, whose incredibly restrictive teachings and controlling practices have earned them the adjective “cult-like.” These organizations and leaders teach that children must be trained to obey their parents completely, without question, and with a smile; that women are not to have careers and that daughters should be actively discouraged from considering such; that adult daughters must continue to obey their fathers and must marry through parent-controlled courtships; that college attendance is problematic for children of either gender but especially for girls; and that marrying and having large numbers of children is the only godly path available.

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TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: arth; duggar; gothard
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To: DariusBane

Tells you not to eat pork.


Well they better not eat buzzard then because I have heard that it tastes more like pork than even dog meat does.


81 posted on 08/27/2014 1:30:34 AM PDT by ravenwolf (s)
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To: GraceG
Most all the attacks from the left on families like the Duggars come from people who hate them for “some reason” they cannot conciously realize, but deep down there is a subconcious envy against people or groups of people who seem happier or more sucessful than themselves.


82 posted on 08/27/2014 4:43:48 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: DariusBane
It is true, I do not know their beliefs and motivations directly.

We are to love one another, and this thread does not seem loving to the Duggard family.

There are many differing families, with varying backgrounds or foreign countries teaching's as the education for their thought system.

Get over judging differences. Thank God it is not up to us to be judge and jury.

Love your neighbor as yourself...

I do not know their heart, I do see the fruit. The fruits look good to me.

God bless America,

83 posted on 08/27/2014 8:52:58 AM PDT by geologist ("If you love me, keep my commands" .... John 14 :15)
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To: geologist

The ATI movement needs to be marginalized. I have nothing against the Duggers who I am sure are well meaning as are most of the ATI families.


84 posted on 08/27/2014 8:54:33 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: DariusBane

“The ATI movement needs to be marginalized.”

What is the ATI movement?

The Duggard’s live their belief system.

As do we all.


85 posted on 08/27/2014 9:05:15 AM PDT by geologist ("If you love me, keep my commands" .... John 14 :15)
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To: geologist

They don’t live their belief system. They live Bill Gothard’s belief system. ATI. Recoveringgrace.org


86 posted on 08/27/2014 9:24:29 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: ravenwolf

...I don’t see anything wrong with not going to college..

This is true and your point that the public school system is a dangerous cult is well taken as well.

However, the fact that the Duggars live their lives in front of a camera is troubling; nothing those children do is real life when they are on camera, and they know it. Thus, the whole situation is suspect because of the veneer of reality TV.


87 posted on 08/27/2014 10:16:41 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: stonehouse01

However, the fact that the Duggars live their lives in front of a camera is troubling; nothing those children do is real life when they are on camera,


I was not really aware of that fact, which changes things in my mind considerable, I have not had t.v for thirty years so I am not even familiar with them.

And the reason I quit t.v is because of all of the phony things that are brought to us as true.

Thinks for making me aware of it.


88 posted on 08/27/2014 2:30:11 PM PDT by ravenwolf (s)
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To: ravenwolf

I Hate TV and good for you. I never watch yet my family does (way less than most).

TV is the brainwashing.


89 posted on 08/27/2014 2:39:24 PM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: PapaBear3625

“...support themselves through work...”

Does the check from the TV show count as work? Or is the camera exploitation of the children for the check?

Not feeling it.


90 posted on 08/27/2014 2:55:59 PM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: agrarianlady

When I got a Vision Forum catalog in the mail, I was angry. Jane Austen is held up as an example to girls — sure, she was a witty British writer, but she is not a Christian writer and did not write to further the Kingdom.

And I can’t even begin to tell you how grossed-out I am by Bill Gothard.

As a homeschooling mother, I am SO thankful that I had the opportunity both to attend college and to work after college. It is just simply inhumane to deny a young woman a chance to do these things. We are fully human and equal with men in God’s kingdom. I completely accept that we have different roles in the church and at home, but my education and career opportunities means that I can be a better parent to my children who are both male and female. If I’m to teach children at church — ditto.

Does a man really want a woman without a strong education herself educating his sons at home?
___________________

Do you realize the Amish do not educate beyond sixth grade?

I am glad you have been able to exercise your values. Let the Amish, plain clothes Mennonites, Brethren, and all the other conservatives sects exercise theirs.


91 posted on 08/27/2014 2:59:48 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: stonehouse01

All I care about is that they are not consuming tax dollars from me.


92 posted on 08/27/2014 3:20:23 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: stonehouse01

TV is the brainwashing.


Yep, when they found out how the commercials went over so well they realized it would work on anything.


93 posted on 08/27/2014 4:04:49 PM PDT by ravenwolf (s)
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To: stonehouse01

They are wealthy in their own right. Their house is totally paid for. They go on mission trips to help others and to teach their kids how really blessed they are. More people should be like them.


94 posted on 08/29/2014 1:15:32 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: ravenwolf

Amen. I grew up on a working farm in MS and I loved those days.


95 posted on 08/29/2014 1:17:10 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: fishtank

yah, but we really should embrace homosexuality, homosexual marriage and every deviancy under the earth.


96 posted on 08/29/2014 1:27:55 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: MamaB

Amen. I grew up on a working farm in MS and I loved those days.


Yep, it was great but we never stayed in one place long enough to really farm, although I do remember a couple of our own harvests.


97 posted on 08/29/2014 5:33:57 PM PDT by ravenwolf (s)
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To: ravenwolf

I was blessed that I lived on one farm until middle of the 6th grade and we moved to a farm my brother bought for when he got out of the USAF. It had 2 houses on it. It was at the end of a road so when we saw a car, we knew it was family/friends. I remember one summer my dad’s brother wanted to grow some cotton. I still do not understand why but we ended up taking care of it and picking the cotton. That was one time too many. Cotton does not weigh a lot so it took us forever to pick a bale. Am glad we did it but do not want to do it again! Precious memories along my life’s trail. The Duggars will have precious memories, too.


98 posted on 08/29/2014 5:42:06 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: MamaB

I did not get in on picking cotton, two of my brothers and a sister went to Arizona and tried it but barely made enough money to eat.

They said the people who grew up doing it could actually make pretty good money doing it.

My dad farmed broom corn in eastern Colorado and beans in western Colorado.

The broom corn was cut with pocket knives then bundled up and put on a wagon or truck and hauled to town to be baled.

The grown ups cut and the kids bundled, at eight years old I thought I was old enough to cut and it seemed so easy, dad let mew try it for about a half of a day and I was glad to go back to bundling.

It is strange how a few precious memories off set all of those not so precious and I think God for that.


99 posted on 08/30/2014 5:13:19 AM PDT by ravenwolf (s)
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To: ravenwolf

Let me tell you a little story. When I was growing up, we would chop what we thought were weeds. We called them maypops. Imagine my surprise when my daughter told me they were passion fruit. Had never seen any fruit. About 2 months ago, I went outside to talk to a friend. She was looking at a huge vine at the side of the house. I got to looking at it and saw it was passion fruit! My daughter and her 2 kids ate them in Seattle. They can have them! The blooms are beautiful. It is about 20’ long and was not here when my irises and peonies were blooming. No one knows how it got there. The vine is pretty, too. I have showed it to neighbors who had never heard of/seen one. We learn something every day.


100 posted on 08/30/2014 6:36:23 AM PDT by MamaB
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