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To: redleghunter
See above post, and while there is "the Israel of God" (Gal. 6:16) meaning the elect, Rm. 11, as shown here makes it clear that there is also the "natural branches" Israel, thus it is written that "Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded," (Romans 11:7)

For "blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in." (Romans 11:25) But then God will reverse the curse, "And so all Israel [the natural branches coning to faith and joining the Israel of God as elect] shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away unGodliness from Jacob: (Romans 11:26)

But it seems some Caths do not believe this prophecy.

63 posted on 08/31/2014 1:08:15 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212; redleghunter
For "blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in." (Romans 11:25) But then God will reverse the curse, "And so all Israel [the natural branches coning to faith and joining the Israel of God as elect] shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away unGodliness from Jacob: (Romans 11:26)

Exactly right. Here, I think, is that very point:

Zec 12:6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.
Zec 12:7 The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.
Zec 12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.
Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Notice, This is all about Judah. The Jews. Whom we call Israel today. Not anyone else. Allegorize THAT.

70 posted on 08/31/2014 3:11:34 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: daniel1212; redleghunter; CynicalBear; boatbums; roamer_1

while there is “the Israel of God” (Gal. 6:16) meaning the elect,

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careful, another name for the elect is the Body of Christ or the Church......so to admit there is “the Israel of God” that is not national Israel should bring the dispensational wrath upon you, but since you don’t hold to the historical orthodox Christian Faith, you probably are safe.


87 posted on 08/31/2014 6:10:26 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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