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To: HarleyD
Actually, no one is pope.

The author gave a an argument for his assertions. What's the argument for yours? Your interpretation of Scripture? If so, why should I accept your authority on the matter? In fact, if you're basing you assertion on Scripture, which book? How do you know that book forms part of the authentic Scriptures Christ wants us to follow?

9 posted on 08/24/2014 5:54:44 AM PDT by scouter
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To: scouter
What's the argument for yours? Your interpretation of Scripture?

This argument never ceases to amaze me. The scriptures says "Call no one father." I recite the command and state that we shouldn't call anyone father. Then someone says I'm "interpreting" it.

This isn't a dream or vision. Nor is it complicated. There isn't anything to interpret. I'm reciting a command. It's up to people to determine whether or not to follow it.

14 posted on 08/24/2014 6:44:31 AM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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To: scouter; HarleyD
Scripture is self-authenticating. It is God-breathed. See 2 Tim 3:14-17. Those who belong to God hear the word of God:

John 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

So there has never been a real problem with those who belong to God identifying the true words of God. Is it really all that significant that some centuries-late johnny-come-lately clerics finally caught up with the consensus of the church at large?

As for the assertion we should not call earthy leaders "father," that is an assertion of Jesus. Your correspondent is merely repeating it. If you say you follow Christ, we assume that means you follow His teachings. If this is what He teaches, the burden is on you to explain why you do not either believe this is what He's really teaching, or else why it somehow no longer applies.

So, no earthly "papa" means ... wait for it .. no earthy "papa." Can you say why that isn't so?

Peace,

SR

24 posted on 08/24/2014 8:23:30 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: scouter
If so, why should I accept your authority on the matter? In fact, if you're basing you assertion on Scripture, which book? How do you know that book forms part of the authentic Scriptures Christ wants us to follow?

So your argument is that an assuredly (if conditionally) infallible magisterium is essential for determination and assurance of Truth (including writings and men being of God) and to fulfill promises of Divine presence, providence of Truth, and preservation of faith, and authority.

And that being the historical instruments and stewards of Divine revelation (oral and written) means that Rome is that assuredly infallible magisterium. Thus those who dissent from the latter are in rebellion to God.?

36 posted on 08/24/2014 10:04:34 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: scouter
Your interpretation of Scripture?

If the 'interpretation' bothers you; you can ALWAYS just read the Scripture for yourself to actually SEE what it says.


Oh... wait...

112 posted on 08/25/2014 1:55:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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