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To: HarleyD

So I guess you don’t call your dad “father”.


19 posted on 08/24/2014 7:49:24 AM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv
So I guess you don’t call your dad “father”.

Take it in context.

Jesus is clearly talking about calling religious leaders by the title *Father*.

Additionally, the argument doesn't hold water because even if everyone around the world disobeys the command and calls their father *Father* of Dad, or Abba, or whatever, how does that justify the church and Catholics disobeying the clear command of Jesus?

Everyone else is wrong and sins, so we can too? No big deal?

Did Jesus tell us not to call religious leaders *Father * or not? Then how does one excuse, or justify, disobedience?

And just for kicks and giggles, just what would you propose a child call his male parent?

Hey you? Sir? Husband of my mother? Male Parental Unit?

30 posted on 08/24/2014 9:17:43 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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So I guess you don’t call your dad “father”.

SUCH a boring and well-worn counter argument - one which never has held water.

Our dads are the original image YHWH gave us to teach us what HE is - Without having a father, without seeing a father, the term would mean nothing.

That others would usurp this most powerful image should be expected, as it is the height of patriarchal authority (real authority) - 'The Strong Man of the House' (what 'father' means, a man in his prime), or the ultimate wisdom of the human father (the grandfather, how ever many removed, only makes them all the wiser) - That some would abscond with these very honorable things to increase their gaudy plumage is predictable, but such as these should never be listened to, as one who requires such plumage, it turns out, can be no 'father' at all. For if he must pluck the title from someone else, it inherently shows he did not possess it naturally.

38 posted on 08/24/2014 10:20:33 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: piusv
So I guess you don’t call your dad “father”.

Is the Pope your actual father or your spiritual father? It's all about context.

53 posted on 08/24/2014 12:36:18 PM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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To: piusv
So I guess you don’t call your dad “father”.

Luke...

I am your fodder...

116 posted on 08/25/2014 2:02:05 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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