The Catholic Defender: Mary, Queen Of Heaven

http://www.deepertruthblog.com ^ | August 19, 2014

[NKP_Vet]

Hail Mary, Full of Grace, The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of death.

Amen.

[delchiante]

The first promise for praying the rosary located in the rosary instruction manual..

1. Whosoever shall faithfully ‘Serve Me’ by the recitation of the Rosary shall receive signal graces.

Luke 4:8
8 And Yahshua answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship YHWH thy Elohim, and Him Only shalt thou Serve..

The first promise is a lie from this spirit. Or the spirit was misqouted...
Either way, on the witness of both the Living Word and His written Word, this spirit is lying.

Lies never lead to Truth.

[Alex Murphy]

The Marian teaching “Queen of Heaven” is steeped in Old Testament tradition. There are those who misunderstand this teaching and will even claim it is Pagan. Nothing can be furthest from the truth....

.... Is Mary the true Queen of Heaven, is there such a position within the kingdom of God? The answer is yes, and this Queen is the Blessed Virgin Mary. The foundation for this is found in 1 Kings 2:12-20....We see a glimpse of this heavenly glory with the Messiah in heaven in Psalms 45....The Queen of Psalms 45 will be remembered and celebrated in all generations, and the people will praise her forever. Is there any other woman in history that can fit this description? Hillary Clinton? This praise will not be worship that is given to God alone, but it will be honor and petition....

PFL

[rawcatslyentist]

Every Apostle knew Jesus's mother.

How could they ALL have missed out on praying to her for intercession? Why do NONE of them even vaguely mention it?

These were people that physically met, walked, talked, and ate with her. How could they have missed out on her royal status? Why did none of them ever refer to her in this manner?

Jesus knew his mother. Why did Jesus himself NEVER mention praying to his mother for intercession? Why did Jesus never mention her royal status?

Nice job of diggin up every reference about kings mothers being honored. I missed the name Mary in every one of them though.

[Pyro7480]

Why do NONE of them even vaguely mention it?

You think everything the Apostles taught is contained in Scripture? If that's the case, then why all the controversy in the earliest ages of Christianity over Christ's natures?

[Boogieman]

You missed a reference:

“17 Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?

18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.”

Jeremiah 7:17-18

[Salvation]

Do you honor your own mother?

What will Christ say to you at the moment you die since you don’t honor his mother in a similar fashion?

[NKP_Vet]

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[Bulwyf]

You and I know that’s right, that there is no such thing etc, but I am not sure on the best way to reach Catholics. I have found that pointing out the beliefs of the Roman Catholic church and then refuting it with the bible doesn’t work. It’s no different than any other belief system that isn’t Christian (Mormon, J.W.) etc. I think the only way to reach out is to just show love and live it and pray, and let the Holy Spirit do his work. The beatings with the bible don’t seem to be working.

[Alex Murphy]

Do you honor your own mother? What will Christ say to you at the moment you die since you don’t honor his mother in a similar fashion?

"Did you honor my mama?!?!?"

[NKP_Vet]

“I have found that pointing out the beliefs of the Roman Catholic church and then refuting it with the bible doesn’t work”

You mean the CATHOLIC document that came from the CATHOLIC CHURCH. Without the CATHOLIC CHURCH you will still be praying to a sun god.

[defconw]

I remember that a dutiful son rarely if ever denies the request of his mother.

[defconw]

That should not have made me laugh, but it did. Right on!

[Bulwyf]

I can tell you that that is not true, but it wouldn’t be to any use. It’s like trying to argue with a person who believes the world to be flat and you know for a fact it isn’t. They won’t change their mind. I have no desire to be confrontational, because I’ve done that in the past and I don’t believe that’s how Jesus would want me to represent him. Instead, I will say that I will pray for you, for your countrymen, for my countrymen, and for our countries that we may know him and that we will turn back to him and right our countries.

No amount of deportations, elections, war, you name it, nothing will repair our countries unless we have the blessing of God himself.

As for the word of God, God himself did give us his word and he’s all powerful, he can preserve his word, and it’s up to us to follow it. I’m no perfect person, but I’m trying to improve myself everyday and lead my house.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Delchiante, you've made an important point, that only God should be served as God. The kind of "serving" we are forbidden to do, is to serve somebdy else "as God."

However, we are also expected, even commanded to serve others, in other ways:

1 Peter 4:10
"Like good stewards of the manifold grace of God, serve one another with whatever gift each of you has received."

Galatians 5:13
"For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another."

Thus we are not forbidden to serve others, we are forbidden to put anyone above God.

To adore someone else wold be going too far. Tha is idolatry.

[Salvation]

Be merciful to all who are suffering violence, keeping always in your heart the example of the Lord who said, “I desire mercy and not sacrifice.”

-- Saint Stephen of Hungary

[82nd Bragger]

What about JW’s do you consider unchristian? BTW, I’m not one of those, but had an old relative who was one.

[dartuser]

Error ... upon error ... built upon more error.

Get the nature of the virgin birth wrong and you have to have Mary sinless. Make her sinless and she cannot die. If she cannot die then she must have been taken up into heaven bodily. If she was taken up in to heaven bodily she should have a position due her uniqueness.

It goes on and on ... the author is incapable of handling God's word with any accuracy ... drawing conclusions from narrative sections of scripture without recourse to history, grammar of the languages, context of the passage, understanding in theology.

False doctrine ... producing false converts ... producing false fruit ... giving false hope.

Repent, believe, call on Him as Lord ...

[NKP_Vet]

“As for the word of God, God himself did give us his word and he’s all powerful, he can preserve his word”

Through the Catholic Church God gave the world His world.
Without the Catholic Church safeguarding, then compiling The Word there would be no Bible for you to read. Why is that so hard for you understand?

[Dr. Thorne]

The Catholic Church was, is and will always be corrupt. The church deliberately kept the Word of God away from the people for whom it was meant, and installed laughably insane (but profitable) church traditions in the Word's place. Just sick.

I'm not going to worry about Christ's attitude about His mother when I stand before Him. I honor her as the vessel of our Savior. You should worry about worshiping anyone but God which is nothing but idolatry against which we are admonished from the beginning to the end of the Bible.