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1 posted on 08/18/2014 2:32:47 PM PDT by NYer
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As best I can recall, the Popes during my lifetime have spoken against every military action. This speaks volumes about the level of threat we are seeing from ISIS>/


2 posted on 08/18/2014 2:34:40 PM PDT by ilgipper
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Well, he endorsed “stoppage”, not force. The guy is one of the most equivocal, non-content, mealy-mouthed wannabes that thinks he is some sort of world “leader”, but is really just another guy in a bathrobe with an odd beany and ought to stick to making up new rules about selling indulgences to buy another castle.


3 posted on 08/18/2014 2:36:02 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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This is an astounding reaction, indicative of how the pope is "evolving" (I hate the expression but it seems appropriate in this context) in his understanding of militant Islam. Bechara Cardinal Rai, along with a group of other Eastern Catholic Patriarchs, are headed to Irbil this week, to provide assistance to the beleaguered Iraqis.

Ping!

4 posted on 08/18/2014 2:36:10 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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In other news... POPE PUNTS ON AMERICAN AIRSTRIKES IN IRAQ .

Which begs the question -- What kind of "force" is acceptable?
5 posted on 08/18/2014 2:37:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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I certainly hope the Pope does NOT go to Iraq. ISIS would love to capture or kill a Pope.


6 posted on 08/18/2014 2:37:27 PM PDT by plain talk
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As does everyone in the West with a brain.


7 posted on 08/18/2014 2:38:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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A new crusade?


10 posted on 08/18/2014 2:50:13 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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crusade photo: Crusade crusade_jihad.jpg

C'mon, call a Crusade...

11 posted on 08/18/2014 2:55:58 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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I’ve suggested beefing up the Swiss Guard and remobilizing the military orders as military orders. I’ve only been at most half kidding.


12 posted on 08/18/2014 2:57:50 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Catholic doctrine and discipline may be walls; but they are the walls of a playground."--GKC)
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13 posted on 08/18/2014 2:58:48 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Unfortunately, a false alarm, after reading post 5 link.


15 posted on 08/18/2014 3:01:56 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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God Bless the good Pope!

O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, granting to Thy people victory over the barbarians, and by the power of Thy Cross preserving Thy commonwealth!


19 posted on 08/18/2014 3:32:25 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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How long do you want them stopped Father? You want them stopped until we leave? They will just come back.

Parents are feeding their children with their blood, because there is no food.

Now talk to me about this Religion of Peace, and tolerance, etc.

Perhaps a mass exorcism, Father?


26 posted on 08/18/2014 4:34:32 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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A couple of other interesting tid-bits from the papal plane interview:

But, I think that 70 years ago also the bishops emeritus were an exception. They didn't exist. Today, the bishops emeritus are an institution. I think that the pope emeritus is already an institution. Why? Our lives are getting longer and at a certain age there is not the capacity to govern well, because the body tires and health perhaps is good but there is the capacity to carry forward all of the problems like those in the governance of the church. I think that Pope Benedict made this gesture of popes emeritus. I repeat that maybe some theologian would say this isn't just, but i think like this. The centuries will tell if it's like this or not, we'll see, but if you can to say to me, 'but do you think that one day if you don't feel like it, will you go on?' But, I would do the same. I would do the same. I will pray, but I would do the same. He opened a door that is institutional not exceptional.

Looks like we could have more then one retired pope at a time in the future. And it could become a regular occurrence.

That prayer for peace, absolutely was not a failure! First, the initiative didn't initiative didn't come from me. The initiative to pray together came from the two presidents. The president of the state of Israel and the president of the State of Palestine. They made the restlessness present to me. Then, we wanted to do it there but we couldn't find the right place because of the political post of each one it was very strong if we did it in one or another part. The nunciature was a neutral site, yes, but to get to the nunciature the president of Palestine had to enter in Israel. The thing wasn't easy. They said, well, let's do it in the Vatican. We'll go. These two men are men of peace. They are men who believe in God. They have lived so many nasty things, so many nasty things. They are convinced that the only path to resolve that situation is negotiation, dialogue, peace.

Now if I were asking the questions, I would have liked to ask about the imam's so-called prayer for "peace".

30 posted on 08/19/2014 1:08:36 PM PDT by piusv
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Francis also said he and his advisers were considering whether he might go to northern Iraq himself to show solidarity with persecuted Christians.

HaHa...They don't need solidarity...They need money for weapons to defend themselves...Cough it up pope...

"In these cases, where there is an unjust aggression, I can only say that it is licit to stop the unjust aggressor," Francis said. "I underscore the verb 'stop.' I'm not saying 'bomb' or 'make war,' just 'stop.' And the means that can be used to stop them must be evaluated."

And yet their pope is mum on the terrorists in Gaza launching 3,500 rockets at civilian men, women, children and babies in Israel...Yea, we got your number pope...

32 posted on 08/19/2014 7:19:00 PM PDT by Iscool
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