Posted on 08/17/2014 10:21:22 AM PDT by wmfights
Yes really...
further Paul tells us in Romans 11:26 “ all Israel will be saved”, so the question of who/what is Israel is very important.
You're getting smarter...
if you believe Israel are those with Jewish DNA, then you believe all physical Jews will be saved, regardless of what they believe about Jesus Christ.
Why are you even asking...God gives us the answer in the scriptures...Do you even know why the Jews reject Jesus???
Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
Rom 11:9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
Rom 11:10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
Do you get that or do you have to run that by your Magisterium???
Rom 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
There's another tough one...Maybe you can give Francis a call...
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Now there's the heavy stuff...You'd better get Mary in on this one...
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Isa 54:6 For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.
Isa 54:7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.
Isa 54:8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.
Isa 54:9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.
Isa 54:10 For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.
There is Sooooooo much scripture that covers this it has to be pure laziness to avoid checking it out...
It is sad to see people stumbling over scripture and then trying to act as some sort of authority...It's like bringing checker pieces to a chess game...
So what is it, ignorance or deception???
Anyone who reads those scriptures know that it is the tares that are removed and the wheat remains on the earth...
She had no choice but to reject Jesus...
>> “.It’s like bringing checker pieces to a chess game.” <<
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Fitting!
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Deal with facts instead of assumptions and you'll get a yes or no answer.
Put out hypotheticals and you won't. They don't deserve them.
Then why did you ask a question and demand an answer to it when you just told us you, as a Catholic, will never understand the answer to?
Ouch......
Which denomination is deceiving you? It is talking about the spiritually dead, at the Great White Throne Judgment. That apparently is not a simple matter to understand for the intellectuals. IE, for those that didn't make the first cut.
I have to admit that that is a new one on me.
I dunno. Latin was part of my Roman Catholic education.
no
Or, evidently, prevent it.
Uh... you were supposed to chase the shiny object?
This is IT?
Thanks but no thanks.
JESUS answered that.
I merely illustrated the fact.
(Showing your work appears to be a vanishing art among some.)
When posting snippets; make sure that no one comes along after you and posts a LOT more Scripture.
2 Corinthians 5:8
(ASV) we are of good courage, I say, and are willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be at home with the Lord.
(CJB) We are confident, then, and would much prefer to leave our home in the body and come to our home with the Lord.
(DARBY) we are confident, I say, and pleased rather to be absent from the body and present with the Lord.
(ESV) Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.
(KJV) We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
(NASB) we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord.
(NIV) We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.
(NKJV) We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.
(RSV) We are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.
Leaving out man's PREFERENCE when 'quoting' this verse leaves a vastly different impression in the minds of people.
Nothing indicates that a person WILL be with the Lord immediately after death.
This begins in childhood when the kid is told that little Fluffy is now 'with Jesus' when her cat is flattened by a car,
or that Gramma is 'with Jesus' when she died.
Are you sure it's not the other way around?
And what happens to the UNbelievers on that Day?
Where DO you get your info?
It IS?
These spiritually dead folks; their names are NOT in the Book of Life; right?
Revelation 20:11-15
"Then I saw a great White Throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and THE BOOKS WERE OPENED. Another book was opened WHICH IS THE BOOK OF LIFE. The dead were judged according to their works as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to their works. Then death and Hades were thrown into the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written IN THE BOOK OF LIFE, he was thrown into the lake of fire."
If anyone's name was not found written IN THE BOOK OF LIFE...
Why even CHECK the BoL if the 'spiritually dead' folks names are the ONLY ones at the GWT judgment?
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