Posted on 07/18/2014 6:35:30 AM PDT by NYer
Israel has “free” abortions for all and gay marriage too, they are also pretty socialist in their economy I think.
Atheists and Muslims deserve to be despised more than what they are, given that both groups probably account for 90% of murder in the world. Both religions are made of nothing but scumbags who will stop at nothing to murder conservatives and Christians.
On the other hand, white Evangelicals hold Jews in the highest regard.
I don't think there is a stronger mutual differential between any two groups in the survey.
I agree. It's a scandal, and is illustrated by the different attitudes of "Jewish leadership" to "dialogue" with Catholics/Orthodox and that with Fundamentalists/Evangelicals.
There are two types of anti-chrstianity: one from a pre-chrstian perspective (ie, chrstianity is false and unauthorized an an innovation from what was revealed of old) and post-chrstian anti-chrstianity (the enlightenment/hippie/leftist variety). Traditional Orthodox Jews are anti-chrstian in the first sense; secular/liberal (which unfortunately also overlaps with the Orthodox, especially the "Modern") for the latter. The first type of anti-chrstianity is perfectly legitimate and I hold to it myself. The second is totally illegitimate.
However, when you put the two together, what you get is absolutely no sympathy for Evangelicalism at all. Traditional Orthodox Jews do not view chrstianity in any other way than as heresy, idolatry, and historically its greatest enemy (it is held to have sprung from Esau). Liberal Jews on the other hand (who otherwise are willing to chat with anyone and insist that all religions are equally valid) make Evangelicalism into the straw man representative for everything they oppose about orthodox religion generically ("intolerance," exclusivity of truth, etc.). Between these two attitudes there is simply no one out there (other than a random voice here and there) who defends Evangelical chrstianity. I myself defend it only insofar as it is right, which is mostly its defense of the facticity of the Hebrew Bible. On other areas I am just as opposed. I also oppose ethno-cultural slurs directed against them as I, ethno-culturally, am a "Bible Belt Fundamentalist."
It also must be pointed out that Evangelicals, while laudable in their love and support for Jews and Israel, support them not from a genuine respect for authentic Judaism, but only in the context of their own chrstian religion: ie, they support Jews as a sort of fossilized remnant of "pre-incarnation chrstianity." This is insulting not only to all Jews but to me as well, and I encounter this attitude on FR quite often among philo-Semitic chrstians. Of course, as chrstians by definition must consider the teachings of chrstianity as the ultimate truth, this attitude must be understood. HOWEVER--I do wish that these chrstians would make some attempt to understand why Jews (and Noachides) consider such support to be patronizing and far from ideal.
What liberals refuse to see is that their own "support of Jews" also is not out of any love for authentic Judaism but only as a high-profile "religious minority" whose status as the number one victim of historical chrstian oppression is used as a big stick with which to beat not only chrstianity, but orthodox religion in general. (The post-chrstian anti-chrstianity is in fact the product of rebels within the chrstian community who continue to see chrstianity alone as "religion" and refuse to see any non-chrstian religion as anything that a fellow "victim of chrstian oppression." The fact that they support every other religion against chrstianity, even the most superstitious and reactionary, shows that they still regard only chrstianity as "religion" per excellence. As with the philo-Semitism of Evangelicals, this is patronizing in the extreme and even worse--because at least the Evangelicals still associate Jews with G-d and the Bible, while liberals see them as victims of G-d and the Bible, with apparently no sense of irony whatsoever.)
I hope this post, representing the results of a life time of puzzling over these things, will provide some possible answers to others who scratch their heads at this phenomenon.
Not among the Orthodox Jews in Israel.
Good points all. Right on the mark.
Oh, and NKP_Vet, is a Jew’s savvy at making money to the exclusion of anyone or everyone else in the world who applies their physical or mental labor in the hopes of financial reward?
Does anyone else at all make money really well? Are they super-real-good at it? Like only one assisted by Satan could do?
...IF I jumped the gun, and you merely meant praise of Jews’ business acumen... well... tell me if I jumped the gun.
In all fairness, Asia is muddled as relates to Christianity.
The Chinese are still frightened of it, because of the Taiping Rebellion, to which Christianity had a tiny, indirect and unintentional connection, but has tarred Christians there ever since.
In other places, it is not religious problems per se, but political, ethnic and cultural problems that are unique to that country. In some of them, Christians are caught up in the misbehavior of Muslims.
Last but not least, there is still resentment about the colonial imposition of Christianity, though those most resentful were often the least imposed upon. Often it was the bad secular behavior of colonialists that Christianity has been associated with, though often the Christians worked to mitigated or end abuses.
The bottom line is that when these religions have come to America, unlike Islam, they have been very peaceful and orderly, with a few exceptions, like the Hare Krishna (founded 1966), that kind of went nuts when their US founder died.
Atheist: A non-believer in a god or gods
I find it interesting that someone who doesn't know if there's a god or gods is classified as a being in a religious group? That's baffling to me. Religion is defined as the acceptance of some God, isn't it?
If someone is skeptical of that, how is he or she categorized into a religious group, as this this poll apparently does... that's odd.
“So agnostics and atheists feel better about muslims than they do Christians? This just confirms their stupidity. Maybe they should try to go live among muslims?”
Apparently you’ve never heard of Pat Condell the comedian?
“It’s good to be anti-Islam”
http://www.patcondell.net/its-good-to-be-anti-islam/
I was just commenting on what the poll said.
I agree with Pat’s comments about Islam.
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