Posted on 07/17/2014 6:46:58 PM PDT by walkinginthedesert
The type of women who would make good priestesses realize they can’t become priestesses in the Church. It’s the ones who would make bad priestesses that invariably think they can. Funny how that works. I mean it’s right there, try to find one woman of any faith who is way into things like abortion, divorce and remarriage, bc within marriage, and ‘gay marriage’ that also thinks women shouldn’t be priests in the Catholic Church.
Freegards
Why was Cicero’s post in #12 deleted?
sounds good..and Roy Masters of the fhu.com is one Jew who has returned and also embraced Jesus.
Where does the scripture say that Peter was a priest? and where does it say Jesus ordained him as one?
Nor arguing yet any way, just want to know.
Peter was one of the Apostles present at the Last Supper when our Blessed Lord Jesus instituted the Holy Eucharist with the command “Do This in Memory of Me”, thus initiating the Apostles into the most Essentially Priestly role.
1 Pt 5:1 - The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ ...
The Greek word "elder" is "presbyter," from which we get the English word "priest".
They may be more faithful, may be better at Gospel exposition, may be more personable, but clergy isn't a woman's job. Praying for better male shepherds is the way to fix the problem, as well as getting rid of the bad ones.
nope..getting good men like Roy Masters to help churches would work! But most of them are too busy judging him!
Been studying the Bible for almost 50 years in much depth. Priest is always/only used in two ways in the New Testament: referring to a Jewish priest, or the Lord Jesus.
Only one time did Paul use the word about himself, Romans 15:16, where he says he was ministering “AS a priest”, not that he WAS a priest.
I’ll admit that is an arguable point - but you can’t build a whole doctrine on one verse where the meaning is in question.
Welcome you to show me one scripture using the word “priest” in reference to any of the apostles or servants of God in the NT.....
BTW - I am not Protestant.......sorry
Yes, you were speaking of apostates, ole Roy would be the chief among them.
But most of them are too busy judging him!
Christians are supposed to exercise judgment especially in their clergy, clowns like Roy are a big reason. One of Satan's minions, he is best kept far from Christians. Pray for the benighted doughheads under his spell.
“Welcome you to show me one scripture using the word “priest” in reference to any of the apostles or servants of God in the NT.....”
The word elder is used. “priest” is an English word which actually comes from the Greek word “presbuteros” which means “elder”.
“BTW - I am not Protestant.......sorry”
If you claim to be a Christian, there are only 5 possibilities:
1) Catholic
2) Eastern Orthodox
3) Oriental Orthodox (i.e. non-Chalcedonian)
4) Protestant
5) a non-Christian sect which uses the name “Christian” but is not in fact Christian (i.e. Mormons, JW’s, etc.).
So, which are you?
No idea. It was totally innocent.
“Do This in Memory of Me”, thus initiating the Apostles into the most Essentially Priestly role.
The Greek word “elder” is “presbyter,” from which we get the English word “priest”.>>>>>>
Titus 1
5
For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:
6
If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
7
For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God;
The above scripture shows plainly that Paul is talking of appointing elders to the position of Bishops, and also in 1 Timothy to deacons.
I believe there is a big misunderstanding of what an elder is.
I don`t think an elder would be higher in authority than a bishop or even a deacon.
Roy helps so much with his Be Still silent prayer...very simple...to break the spell of sin. Something the church has dropped the ball completely on! Roy is a Jew who shows us the pathway to Jesus...the church does not...mostly.
No idea. Well, it’s not the end of the world.
That is a scriptural truth.
1 Peter 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
In the Old Testament it was the priest alone who could approach the throne of God. Jesus was the perfect sacrifice and that veil separating us from the Father was torn in two.
Matthew 27:51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
We can now go boldly before the throne of God having been covered by the blood of Jesus.
Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
In total error I might add.
Roy is a charlatan to put it nicely. Royaniaty has no Christ.
the church does not...mostly.
Can't make up the mind? The Holy Spirit leads men to Christ
I have no dog in this fight since I have no ties to this denomination, or its religious traditions. God’s Word should trump any religious tradition, no matter how tightly people cling to it. I know in my own life I have had to deal with some personal bias when it comes to females preaching, but I would gladly take a Spirit-filled woman called by God in a pulpit any day over some of what commonly appears there. It should not be what I want though, but what God wants. Whether male or female, if they are not called by God or anointed for the ministry, they should not be there. God’s got too many salesmen and counselors trying to be preachers, and too many folks that were called to preach running in the opposite direction.
This one passage lays the foundation for understanding the role of women in the Body of Christ. Note especially the 28th verse.
Galatians 3:24-29 (KJV)
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
The Body of Christ has many members, and if Believers are being led by the Spirit, God places each member into the body in their proper place for the edification of the Body. Our placement should not be by our choice, or religion’s choice, but according to God’s Divine Plan and His guidance - Jesus is the Head, and ONLY HEAD of the Body. (Romans 12, 1 Corinthians 12)
Note how often women played a role in ministry in the Bible:
The woman at the well acted as an evangelist at Sychar, bringing her whole village to Jesus. (John 4)
Women were the first to spread the Good News of Jesus’ resurrection. (Matthew 28:1-10, Luke 24:9-11, John 20:16-18)
The promise of a Spiritual outpouring was for both sons and daughters, servants and handmaids. (Acts 2:14-21, Joel 2:28-31)
Philip the evangelist had four daughters who prophesied - which edifies the Church see 1 Cor 14:3-4. (Acts 21:8-9)
In Romans, Paul lists several women who had big roles in the Church:
Phoebe, Romans 16:1 - which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea.
Priscilla, Romans 16:3-4 (KJV) - my helper in Christ Jesus and had a church in their house with her husband Aquila. She and her husband mentored Apollos in Acts 18.
Paul names several women among saints and brethren - Mary, Julia (Romans 16:6-16)
Paul writes that Euodia and Syntyche are his genuine yokefellow, who have toiled along with me in the spreading of the Gospel. (Philippians 4:2-3)
Paul writes about women who publicly pray and prophesy. (1 Corinthians 11:5)
Weigh the two prohibitions against women in ministry (1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 2:11-15), against the Spirit and Truth found throughout Paul’s writing TO the Church - Romans through Thessalonians. There should be no contradiction. Either we are all ONE in Christ, or we are not.
Even in the Old Testament there were women involved in ministry - Miriam Exodus 15:20, Deborah Judges 4:4, Huldah the prophetess 2 Kings 22:14 & 2 Chronicles 34:22, Noadiah the prophetess Nehemiah 6:14, not to mention the important roles played by Ruth, Esther, the prophesies of Elizabeth and Mary in Luke 1 and Anna in the Temple in Luke 2.
If God can preach through a donkey, I think He can find a place for an anointed woman of God.
Excellent response.
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