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Pope Reportedly Promises "Solutions" to Priestly Celibacy
Channel News Asia ^ | 7/13/14 | AFP

Posted on 07/13/2014 6:35:41 AM PDT by marshmallow

Pope Francis promised "solutions" to the issue of priestly celibacy in an interview on Sunday that raised the possibility the Catholic Church could eventually lift a ban on married priests, but was quickly refuted by the Vatican

VATICAN CITY: Pope Francis promised "solutions" to the issue of priestly celibacy in an interview on Sunday that raised the possibility the Catholic Church could eventually lift a ban on married priests, but was quickly refuted by the Vatican.

Interviewed by Italy's La Repubblica daily, Francis also condemned child sex abuse as a "leprosy" in the Church and cited his aides as saying that "the level of paedophilia in the Church is at two per cent".

"That two per cent includes priests and even bishops and cardinals," the pope was quoted as saying.

Asked whether priests might one day be allowed to marry, Francis pointed out that celibacy was instituted "900 years after Our Lord's death" and that clerics can marry in some Eastern Churches under Vatican tutelage.

(Excerpt) Read more at channelnewsasia.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; celibacy; pope; popefrancis
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To: Iscool; metmom
Now let's turn the tables.

Since you both seem to agree that Jesus and Paul commend celibacy for "those who can accept it," where are celibates-for-the-kingdom-of-God in Protestantism?

121 posted on 07/13/2014 3:16:19 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: ResisTyr
"You don’t think it becomes well known in all orders of the priesthood, who is queer & who is not?"

No.

"And that some of these queers priests are promoted to higher positions of authority, despite common insider knowledge of their perverted inclinations?"

No, --- but if it does happen, it is in violation of Canon Law. Homosexual are not canonically eligible to be even seminarians, let alone clergy.

According to all the researchers (the John Jay study, Baylor University, Phillip Jenkins at University of Pennsylvania, the insurance companies that offer policies covering liability in abuse cases) Catholic clergy are not especially likely--- compared to other clergy --- to commit acts of sexual perversion; in other words, non-Catholic clergy are just as likely to. (You might want to spare 2 minutes to look at the evidence --- note that this evidence deals with criminal abuse, not just homosexuality per se..)

That being the case, I think you can see that this is a fair question: if sexual perversion were to be found among the leaders of your particular church, wouldn't it be in violation of whatever your internal rules or constitutions are?

Or should I just assume your church is promoting perversion?

122 posted on 07/13/2014 3:17:45 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Cheese.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
"The husband of one wife" means that a priest cannot be twice married.

Doesn't say that...Why would it mean something it does not say but not mean the clear, plain, simple statement that it makes??? The bible calls that adding to or removing words from scripture...

If a man is divorced, he has NO wife...If he was married, divorced and remarried, the man has one wife, not two...Just as the bible says...

123 posted on 07/13/2014 3:19:05 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
Mmm, no. God doesn't say "You hafta be married with a family" in order to oversee a flock. Jesus wasn't married. Paul wasn't married. Jesus said some are unmarried for the Kingdom of God. And Paul said he thought, in his view, the unmarried state was preferable.

So many people ignore that!

124 posted on 07/13/2014 3:20:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Cheese.)
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To: Iscool

Where does He forbid it?


125 posted on 07/13/2014 3:27:53 PM PDT by piusv
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To: Iscool
OK. Here's something from a Catholic Church document:

Matthew 19:29
And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.

126 posted on 07/13/2014 3:35:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Cheese.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; Iscool

OK. Now I see what he is referring to.


127 posted on 07/13/2014 3:36:21 PM PDT by piusv
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To: cloudmountain

As one whose parish has just had to say goodbye to a very dear beloved parish priest who went on needed sabbaithical rest for the next 6-12 months after having dealt with the death of his beloved mother and now having just welcomed what is a new priest/administrator into my parish in the last week or so. The new priest, like the previous one, can in as a later vocation. This new priest is the same age as I, 55, and has been a priest for a little over a year.

So even personal hurt and heartache can come even to our beloved priests.


129 posted on 07/13/2014 4:04:07 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

The Pope was talking about pedophilia, what are those rates?


130 posted on 07/13/2014 4:06:52 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Heart-Rest

Most likely that is the shocked look of Pope Francis after the Argentine soccer team lost in the World Cup.


131 posted on 07/13/2014 4:07:27 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Paul was a bishop.

Paul was not a bishop...None of the apostles were bishops...

Jesus is the eternal High Priest. The pope holds the office of the prime minister of the eternal House of David

There is no prime minister of the house of David...

( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7, i.e., the Church), with the power to "bind and loose," given by Jesus himself. It is fitting for the Church to make celibacy a priestly discipline.

This is all fantasy...There's no scripture for that...In what year was this fantasy first penned by Catholics and turned into tradition???

132 posted on 07/13/2014 4:07:59 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Biggirl
sabbaithical

What's that?

Did you mean: sabbatical

No results containing all your search terms were found.

Your search - sabbaithical - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:

Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
Try different keywords.
Try more general keywords.

133 posted on 07/13/2014 4:12:44 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Yea, yea, hardly a big deal. Yawn.


134 posted on 07/13/2014 4:13:56 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Since you both seem to agree that Jesus and Paul commend celibacy for "those who can accept it," where are celibates-for-the-kingdom-of-God in Protestantism?

Odd question...I had a cousin, now gone to be with the Lord...Never married...I don't think he even ever had a girlfriend...Farmer...Straight as the Seeney Stretch in the U.P. of Michigan...Lifetime born again Christian...Loved farming...Loved being single...Loved God...

135 posted on 07/13/2014 4:14:03 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Biggirl
True enough.
Losing immediate family is extremely painful. Losing parents is bad enough, but sister and husband....
136 posted on 07/13/2014 4:14:37 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: All

Best way to deal with concern trolls is either to have a good laugh or put them on mental ignore.


137 posted on 07/13/2014 4:16:03 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
No, --- but if it does happen, it is in violation of Canon Law. Homosexual are not canonically eligible to be even seminarians, let alone clergy.

But yet there's a known Queer Mafia (is that what they call it?) within the cardinals at the vatican...The straight ones, if there are any apparently are content to ignore it...

138 posted on 07/13/2014 4:17:21 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: cloudmountain

It was his mother. My own mother become friends with the previous parish priest’s mother. She was wonderful and had raised a daugther and two sons, one who became my parish priest for 7 years and also became a friend.


139 posted on 07/13/2014 4:17:59 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl
Yea, yea, hardly a big deal.

Yes, Rachel Jeantel has the same opinion of literacy.


140 posted on 07/13/2014 4:18:05 PM PDT by humblegunner
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