500 Years of Chaos: Protestantism’s Anniversary

Catholic Analysis ^ | 7 June 2014 | Philipp Rogall

[truth_seeker]

“As far as I’m concerned, people who seek to sow discord between Catholics and protestants are a long way from serving God.”

So true. But forums thrive on conflicts.

[Dallas59]

1200 years of purges, torture, executions, ignorance, imprisonment all in the name of Jesus Christ. The church and men bent on domination, took s simple message from the Son of God and turned it into a complicated hell on Earth.

[RginTN]

Huh, Mary queen of Great Britain killing protestants was peace then??

And Catholic Spain expelling jews was peace too??

[MamaB]

Amen.

[matthewrobertolson]

How much of that was done by the Church Herself, and how much of that was done by barely-affiliated men?

Here's an example of what I'm getting at: During the First Crusade, in particular, some of the crusaders targeted Jews, unfortunately, when they could have worked together. (Many also complain over that the Muslims and Jews in the city were killed, but that was in response to their attacks on the Crusaders.) But the Pope himself intervened on behalf of Jews in some cases and was able to save their lives. Such attacks were also opposed by many local bishops, too.

And that's just one of many examples. Be careful of distinctions.

[onedoug]

4,000 Years of Chaos: Judaism’s Lamentation.

[matthewrobertolson]

Elizabeth I tortured and killed FAR more people than Mary I ever did -- and Elizabeth's government would often do such without trial!

And those Jews expelled by Spain were warmly welcomed into Rome by Pope Alexander VI. (And Pope Sixtus IV, for example, opposed the Spanish Inquisition from the very beginning!)

[Tao Yin]

The end of the article lists 4 verses. Reading each one in context, they have nothing to do with the point of the author. That was very sad exegetical work. Very sad indeed.

John 6:68, John 14:6, Ephesians 1:22-23, Colossians 1:24

[boatbums]

This is not to say that Protestants aren't Christians, of course, but we must realize that Protestantism is not what our Lord willed us to have or believe: Catholicism is. Thus, two equal pilgrimages reaching one destination à la Käßmann would cause scandal and confusion. I assume she does not want it to symbolize the way we might some day find unity, but rather the common destination means Christ. But that is precisely the point: The Catholic Church is the ark of salvation, the Body and Bride of Christ, and She alone has "the words of eternal life" (John 6:68). She is Christ in this world apart from Whom "no one comes to the Father" (John 14:6). Protestantism has distorted those words of eternal life fundamentally, and thus cannot be on equal footing with Holy Mother Church. If Christ is "the Way, the Truth and the Life" apart from Whom there is no salvation, then so is the Catholic Church, for She is His Body (Ephesians 1:22-23, Colossians 1:24).

What the Lord Jesus Christ willed us to have is to dwell together in TRUTH, which is far above any surface physical unity. Rather it is Catholicism which has distorted the words of eternal life, which is that FAITH in Jesus Christ is what saves, HE is the ark, and not an elitist organization based in Rome commanding fealty to a Pope. The Eastern Orthodox split away for the SAME reason five hundred years earlier than the Reformers.

[boatbums]

Amen!

[what's up]

Having one denomination does not signify truth.

The true church cuts between all kinds of denominations. All that’s required is faith in Christ’s righteousness instead of our own.

[boatbums]

It sure is at FR. Keepin’ it classy and intellectual, evangelicals!

Do you consider it "classy and intellectual" to condemn, out of hand, all Protestants on Free Republic as this thread was opened to do?

[ravenwolf]

I often wonder if the RCC is the whore of Babylon in Revelation.

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You are not alone in that, and if it is true then the protestant Churches are the daughters and also whores.

[infool7]

Exactly who or what is/was the Catholic “heresy” against? Who’s established doctrine did the Catholic church teach against without sanction? This kind of thing is mind boggling. Your definition for the word heresy is completely contrived for your own disingenuous purposes that either intentionally or ignorantly misleads the uneducated. It sews discord in the one true body of Christ. How many Churches did/does Christ want? Does he desire a body fractured into thousands of discordant gospels or just one in harmony with His pilgrim Church on earth? If he only wants one how are you so sure that you have identified it correctly that you are willing to mislead other little ones to their destruction, our Lord has made quite clear the price for such actions.

[matthewrobertolson]

Interesting that you use the word "cuts"...

"Since Christ suffered for the Church and since the Church is the body of Christ, without doubt the person who divides the Church is convicted of lacerating the body of Christ."
–the Council of Florence, Session 9 (23 March 1440)

[shankbear]

Exactly!!

[GeronL]

bump

[CodeToad]

“protestantism is chaos”

Nothing like posting a hit piece of another religion in the Religion forum.

[PapaBear3625]

protestantism is chaos?

How many different Protestant sects are there, each with their own interpretation of what Scripture really means?