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After Pastor's Son Comes Out, Southern Baptist Church Breaks With Denomination on Homosexuality
Christian Post ^ | 06/06/2014 | Morgan Lee

Posted on 06/06/2014 8:50:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Albion Wilde
Yes, animals will "hump" each other; however, it is generally non-sexual and they stop after they calm down.
61 posted on 06/06/2014 10:40:14 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Ransomed

If you could hear what goes on in the northeastern convocations of the old mainstream churches, you would swear you were at a meeting of the University LGBT Pro-Unionist Abortion Rights Anti-Gun Sociaist Democrats for Anarchy.


62 posted on 06/06/2014 10:43:38 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting, this church sought out man’s opinion but it did not search out the bibles teaching. It disturbing they decided they won’t judge either so now they when sin is engaged in by their members their response is silence? Jesus never stood silent when confronted with sin.

How will they do their alter call since they no longer condemn sin? Come to Jesus but you can still sin, your life won’t be transformed?


63 posted on 06/06/2014 11:04:41 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: SeekAndFind
What AWFUL Parenting!!! Changing your beliefs because your son has HOMOSEXUAL SEX!!! What if he was a KILLER or a ROBBER???

AWFUL parenting is running amok.

64 posted on 06/06/2014 11:09:06 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m a Baptist Pastor’s kid, and if I had “come out”, dear ol’ dad would have broken with ME, not the Bible’s teachings.


65 posted on 06/06/2014 11:10:26 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: FourtySeven
Agree with your entire post. This stood out, in particular, though...

Things are happening with increasing regularity, that just a few years ago no one could have dreamed.

That could be said for so many things that've happened, in my opinion, over the past 7 years.

The speed and ease are amazing...and, were prophesied.

66 posted on 06/06/2014 11:20:27 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Jane Long

You’re right. In just the time since I signed up with FR, so many things (not just militant homosex) have happened that were unthinkable at the time. It’s amazing and frightening at the same time.


67 posted on 06/06/2014 11:26:10 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: SeekAndFind
Danny Cortez, who leads New Heart Community Church in La Mirada, explained his journey..... "I recently became gay affirming after a 15-year journey of having multiple people in my congregation come out to me every year"

......Soon after his shift in beliefs, his 15-year-old son, Drew, revealed that he was gay and later came out publicly on YouTube.

How inspiring & uplifting! A father-son homosexual coming out party.

Ahhhh, they do realize that homos can't procreate, don't they? If so their lineage will end, unless of course they go out on joint recruiting liaisons to keep the abomination alive!

68 posted on 06/06/2014 11:32:37 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Cortez believes that if it wasn't for that 15-year journey and his change in theology, "I may have destroyed my son through reparative therapy."

You wrote...

Why would he have engaged in reparative therapy? That’s for the people who have the problem, not the pastor?

Perhaps the wording is confusing, but I interpreted Cortez's remark that he felt he would have destroyed his son by enrolling him in reparative therapy to overcome his son'a gayness.

No matter really, the whole article is about a morally sick reprobate homo father leading not only his congregation astray, but even more so, his own 15 yr old son

69 posted on 06/06/2014 11:47:11 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup

If we were to look at it in a more charitable but still Biblically sound way, you could say that it’s someone who is or was faithful, but faced a test of faith and failed it.

Whatever the case, prayers for this man and his son and congregation to escape this noose of sin.


70 posted on 06/06/2014 12:54:17 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: cuban leaf
Clearly something is afoot, and it will not go on indefinitely.

Romans 1 implies that homosexuality is a form of judgment itself. Due to their sins, the scripture says "God gave them up to depravity." It sure looks like God has given up this country to depravity. In spite of continuous votes against gay marraige, it's becoming the law of the land. Even liberal Oregon voted 66% against gay marriage, but that was recently thrown out by the courts.

As we see the church falling away, we shouldn't be discouraged. When the Communists began persecuting churches in Russia, the average church saw a 95% falling away. The average church dropped from 300 to 15 members. The same thing will happen here. There is a persecution coming, but few are theologically prepared for it.

71 posted on 06/06/2014 12:54:24 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: aimhigh

I completely agree with everything you posted there. The day is coming where it will cost us. It alrady cost a cake baker in Colorado.


72 posted on 06/06/2014 12:58:57 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf
13 I keep wondering. The bible says “This generation shall not pass away until all these things come to pass.” And they begin with Israel being re-united. This happened in 1948 and the average lifespan of a generation, according to the bible, is 70 years. Just sayin’.

American Christian evangelist and author, Hal Lindsey, aged 40, had his book, The Late Great Planet Earth, published in 1970. The book is a treatment of literalist, premillennial, dispensational (an evangelical, futurist, Biblical interpretation that understands God to have related to human beings in different ways under different Biblical covenants in a series of "dispensations," or periods in history), eschatology (the study of 'end things', whether the end of an individual life, the end of the age, the end of the world and the nature of the Kingdom of God). Coming on the heels of the Israeli-Arab Six-Day War (1967), the book fueled the popularity of dispensationalism and its support of ethnic Jews as the "chosen people of God". It was later made into a film, “The Late Great Planet Earth”, with Hollywood actor/ director/ writer/ producer Orson Welles doing the narration and was released in theaters in 1979. Many of Lindsey's later writings are sequels or revisions and extensions of his 1st book.

The Late Great Planet Earth compared end-time prophecies in the Bible with then-current events in an attempt to broadly predict future scenarios leading to the rapture (a word not used in the Bible) of believers before the tribulation and Second Coming of Christ to establish his thousand-year (i.e., millennial) Kingdom on Earth. Focusing on key passages in the books of Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation, Lindsey originally suggested the possibility that these climactic events might play out in the 1980s, which he interpreted as 1 generation from the foundation of modern Israel in 1948, a pivotal event in some conservative evangelical schools of eschatological thought.

He cited an increase in the frequency of famines, wars and earthquakes, as key events leading up to the end of the world. He also foretold a Soviet invasion of Israel (War of Gog and Magog). Like many previous books, The Late, Great Planet Earth postulated an Antichrist ruling over a 10-member or 10-nation European confederacy. Lindsey believed that what was then the 6-member European Economic Community (later the 28-member European Union) could be a forerunner of this confederacy, which he considered to be a revival of the Roman Empire.

Lindsey wrote that the biblical prophets identified certain nations would ally with other countries to form "4 major spheres of political power" during the same time era that Israel would be reestablished as a nation. These nations and their allies were identified as: (1) Russia with its allies, (2) China with other nations of the Orient, (3) Egypt with other Middle East countries, and (4) an alliance of Western European nations. He stated that the prophets did not directly or indirectly refer to the U.S. He concluded that this was an indication that the U.S. would no longer be a leader on the world geo-political stage by the time the Tribulation of the end times arrived, but he suggested that Ezekiel 13:13 could be speaking of the U.S. in part.

Ezekiel 13:13 (NIV, © 2011) 13 “‘Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: In my wrath I will unleash a violent wind, and in my anger hailstones and torrents of rain will fall with destructive fury.

Although Lindsey did not claim to know the dates of future events with any certainty, he suggested that Matthew 24:32-34 indicated that Jesus' return might be within "1 generation" of the rebirth of the state of Israel, and the rebuilding of the (3rd) Jewish Temple, and Lindsey asserted that "in the Bible" 1 generation is 40 years. Some readers took this as an indication that the Tribulation or the Rapture would occur no later than 1988. In his 1980 work, The 1980s: Countdown to Armageddon, Lindsey predicted that "the decade of the 1980s could very well be the last decade of history as we know it".

Matthew 24:32-34 (NIV, © 2011) 32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[a] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

Lindsey's earlier predictions all assumed that the Cold War would continue indefinitely, and had eschatological significance; he explicitly identified Russia with the apocalyptic figure of Gog. He also assumed that the 1960s counterculture would eventually become the dominant culture, and become the source of prophesied "immorality" that would lead to the establishment of a false religion.

His 1996 book, Planet Earth – 2000 A.D: Will Mankind Survive?, stated that Christians should not plan to still be on earth by the year 2000.

In 1994, he created a weekly television program, “The Hal Lindsay Report”, which was focused on Biblical prophecy and current events. He is still making weekly editions for the program at aged 84. They air on the Trinity Broadcast Network (TBN) under his own financing.

73 posted on 06/06/2014 1:34:10 PM PDT by MacNaughton (Marcus Tullius Cicero: "A nation ... cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: Genoa
Not a well-taught church. Sad!

So true.

We Americans have many gay men going to the Episcopalian church because the Episcopalian Church accepts homosexual relationships.

74 posted on 06/06/2014 6:24:33 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Salvation

Not yet in SBC churches I don’t think.......


75 posted on 06/06/2014 6:36:38 PM PDT by Arlis
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To: Genoa

I love that argument. My dogs eat turds, too. I don’t do that, either. We aren’t supposed to act like animals.


76 posted on 06/07/2014 4:01:48 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This group is no longer “Southern,” and it does not even have “Baptist” in its title. What is it?


77 posted on 06/07/2014 5:33:53 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: cuban leaf

It’s probably good that he’s out of there then. Has your friend found another church to pastor?


78 posted on 06/07/2014 6:54:20 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ConservativeDude

True.


79 posted on 06/07/2014 6:54:34 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: CharlesWayneCT

‘One can only imagine how St. Paul would be treated in the modern society.’

Or John The Baptist. He would be vilified for his “intolerance” of Herod Antipas’ adulterous and incestuous lifestyle.


80 posted on 06/07/2014 6:57:09 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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