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To: Seven_0

“I understand your logic but the question does not go away just because you say so.”

It’s not me saying so, it’s the Bible:

“And death and hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.” Rev. 20:14

“The second resurrection is not specifically mentioned in scripture so wonder if there is one. The second resurrection is however implied by the term “first resurrection” and other things in scripture.”

Yes, on this point we agree. There must be a second resurrection, and it is mentioned in Scripture, just not by that specific name.

The second resurrection is the general resurrection described just before the lake of fire in Revelation, as all those who are resurrected at that time will likely end up in the lake of fire, since they are all judged on their works. Those of the first resurrection are safe from the “second death”, because they are saved Christians who are covered by grace. For the rest, I don’t hold out much hope, since there is not one righteous man on earth, according to the Bible.


122 posted on 06/02/2014 12:10:55 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
Yes, on this point we agree. There must be a second resurrection, and it is mentioned in Scripture, just not by that specific name.

For me this is a puzzle. My study of the numerical structure of scripture led me to this issue from another angle many years ago. It has to do with the meaning of the numbers 2 and 3. I can offer no proof, only evidence by myriad examples. Scripture does not say that the numbers have meaning but most people are easily convinced that the number 7 has a special meaning, why not the rest of the numbers?

I start with the number 3. The first thing I notice is the trinity. The things that come under the number 1 are associated with the father (independence, power cause, etc). Things associated with the number 2 (division, dependence death etc.) are often not associated with God, but we have Jesus. Finally the spirit is number 3, sanctification, manifestation, cubic measure etc. I don't have time to go into more detail now but all of scripture will demonstrate this pattern.

Notice that birth, death and resurrection is a trinity. Not only that but there are two of each with a correlation to "The Trinity."
1 Cor 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
This is a pattern that occurs many times in scripture, so many that you wonder if something is wrong if the order is reversed. For instance the treasure and the pearl in Matthew 13, the treasure is Israel and the pearl is the Church. Reverse the order and the pattern is lost. Since the spiritual man is second, there doesn't seem to be any firstborn sons in Christ's genealogy.

You might expect that birth, death and resurrection also follow this pattern. Birth certainly follows it. The first birth is natural the second birth is spiritual. What about death and resurrection? If they do follow, you will need to adjust your interpretation of Revelation 20, and several other scriptures as well.

I would have put this issue to rest many years ago but I keep finding more pieces to the puzzle. Something to think about.

Seven
144 posted on 06/05/2014 10:36:04 PM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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