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To: Fantasywriter
"QUOTE: What do you think God is telling us/you via the following vss:"

That in spite of God setting up mankind all conditions that would enable them to seek him, Romans 3:11 confirms that "...there is no one who seeks God".
As Jesus said in John 6:44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them..."

I don't believe the scriptures are in error, or contradict, for there are many people who "seek" after a god of their own vain imaginings. We are told to "seek Him while he may be found" and "seek him earnestly", but these directives were to Israel in the first covenant times, or directed to Christians.

I am firmly convinced, based on the scriptures I posted previously in post 53 of this thread, that if God did not reveal himself to individuals, and direct the way to Himself through the sacrificial death of Jesus, NO ONE would worship Him in an acceptable way, or be saved, for that matter.

138 posted on 05/31/2014 7:41:57 PM PDT by jimmyray
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To: jimmyray

‘”QUOTE: What do you think God is telling us/you via the following vss:”

That in spite of God setting up mankind all conditions that would enable them to seek him, Romans 3:11 confirms that “...there is no one who seeks God”.’

You have totally & completely misunderstood the meaning of the Acts 17 passage. I will quote it again for you. This time, please comment on the passage itself. I.e.: don’t read the Acts passage & see only the Romans passage. Read & interpret the Acts passage itself this time. [Once you’re clear on Acts, then it can be harmonized with Romans. But if you never comprehend the meaning of the Acts passage to begin with, you will never successfully reconcile it with any other Scriptural passage.]

“26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, 27 that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and [t]exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’”

While we’re at it, here’s another passage for you. Proverbs 8:17:

“I love those who love me; And those who diligently seek me will find me.”

What does this passage say, Jimmyray? (Hint: it doesn’t say: “I love only the Elect; And nobody diligently seeks Me or finds Me.’)

Now, getting back to Acts 17 again. There is a second passage in it that I would particularly like to hear your thoughts about. If all you can do is respond, ‘Romans!’ then you will certainly miss the point. But if you can read this passage independently & comment on it, your thoughts would be very interesting:

30 “Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”


141 posted on 06/02/2014 7:15:42 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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