[HiTech RedNeck]

Sad... what is needed is more like a “How God can love a Christian out of gayness.”

[struggle]

Now pornography, adultery, and fornication need their apologist studies. </sarcasm>

[Yosemitest]

THERE IS NO SUCH THING as "Gay Homosexual Christians" !

They refuse to believe that Jesus was also LORD of the Old Testament, that He did NOT do away with the Law, and clearly states how to handle homosexuals.

When will people stop being deceived by Satan ?

Homosexuals have been "MARKED" by God and we have been COMMANDED on how to do justice to them.

We MUST OBEY GOD !

People need to not only read, BUT STUDY this link
I especially agree with its last paragraph.

" The Church NEVER can and NEVER will give satisfaction—
and the homosexualist knows it,
for he knows the words against him are INERADICABLE
—to the declared and impenitent homosexual,
the person who, through an act of the vermiculate will,
has identified his person with a sin,
whether HE DEMANDS ACCEPTANCE OF HIS SIN
through "love,"
or VINDICATION
THROUGH IDENTIFICATION OF HIS PERCEIVED ENEMIES AS BIGOTS.
Whether HE PRESENTS HIMSELF as an object of love or indignation,
what HE DEMANDS in either case IS ACCEPTANCE
not of the person,
but OF THE SIN-bound and SIN-DEFINED person.
HE DEMANDS the declaration of SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY that
THERE IS NOTHING OBJECTIVELY DISORDERED about this BINDING OF MAN TO SIN,
and ASSURANCE that THIS MONSTROUS AMALGAM can indeed ENTER the kingdom of heaven.
This can NEVER HAPPEN among Christians UNTIL THEY ABANDON Christianity,
WHICH IS AT WAR WITH EVERY SIN,
and whose indelible constitution
places ALL PERVERSIONS of the perfect man
AT THE MUZZLE of its canons. "

There will be NO HOMOSEXUALS ( NOT ONE ) in the afterlife.
Homosexuals WILL BE ASHES UNDER the soles of your feet ! ! !

[Mrs. Don-o]

I posted this at their site (o tried to: it didn't seem to go through):

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"The Bible never directly addresses, and it certainly does not condemn, loving, committed same-sex relationships."

This is a strangely misleading statement. Of course loving, committed same-sex "relationships" are OK. It describes almost all of the relationships in the Bible: fathers and sons, brothers, cousins, Ruth & Naomi, Mary & Martha of Bethany. These were friend and kinship relationships, and did not imply anything about sexual appetite or gratification.

What the Bible condemns is seeking sexual contact outside of man-woman marriage. It's not the "relationship" (if that means friendship or kinship loyalty) that's a sin --- far from it, friendship is good. It's the misuse of the sexual function.

You can certainly have a deep, committed friendship without going for genital arousal. So this use of the word "relationship" is, in this context, an apparently intentional ambiguity.

Right from the git-go, dishonest argumentation.

[SoFloFreeper]

They should not have had to resign. They should have been removed. See: First Corinthians.

[ConservingFreedom]

“Vines is wholly dependent on scholars and books that are no respecters of biblical authority. He has drawn exclusively from a pool of scholars stalwartly liberal and hostile to evangelical hermeneutics. What Vines has done is put together a piecemeal re-telling of liberal hermeneutics for a lay-level readers.

[...] “Vines’ basic thesis regarding orientation is not derived from the text of Scripture. Rather, the moral force of his argument in favor of legitimizing homosexual desire is used to explain away the text. Which is to say, he’s relying on some other authority for his basic claim—namely, an extra-textual moral authority that neither the history of scriptural interpretation nor church history considers valid.”

- http://www.canonandculture.com/reformation-or-revolution-a-review-of-god-and-the-gay-christian

[cloudmountain]

We hate the SIN, not the SINNER.

No need to throw stones, either. I will always remember that scene in SON OF GOD where the adulteress was about to be stoned and Jesus told the people there who were "without sin" to cast the first stone at her.

It was one thing to read about it and quite another to see it acted out. It sure brought it home to me.