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To: annalex
While such penalties would be impossible in modern (past couple of centuries) America

Never in America. In Europe the Catholic church was the law, they made it so, and imposed it, brutally. When the first survivor Christians broke free from Rome they did look very much like the Catholics and Catholic culture of brutality they were born as, and were fighting for their survival, but after a few generations of being free and the Catholic denomination accepting their loss of power, the bloodshed ended.

When I see threads at FR, I also see that some Catholics regret that they can't reimpose that power.

163 posted on 05/26/2014 11:55:09 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

The point remains that when there was bloodshed, it was mutual. There were Catholic countries prosecuting Protestants as traitors and there were Protestant countries that prosecuted Catholics as traitors, and of course, everyone wanted to colonize and enlighten the pagans in the Americas and Africa.

The bloodshed ended when religion became to be viewed as a matter of intellectual choice, following the Enlightenment both in West Europe and America.

The power many Catholics want re-imposed is the power of the Catholic Church to control the Catholic character of people and institutions that want to be called Catholic without actually being Catholic in behavior. We would like our bishops to excommunicate pro-life politicians for example, and colleges that are considered Catholic to actually teach Catholicism. I am not aware of any Catholic that would want the Church to gain legislative power over people and institutions outside of it.


166 posted on 05/26/2014 12:11:52 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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