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1 posted on 05/19/2014 5:58:54 PM PDT by Gamecock
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Pope Francis, who had a girlfriend as a young man

Oh really?

IBPBAMOHRC

2 posted on 05/19/2014 6:00:30 PM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: Gamecock

Wouldn’t this mean, at least for the priests involved, celibacy is already a thing of past? Just ax’n


3 posted on 05/19/2014 6:01:27 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Gamecock

I wonder if all the women are democrats, you know because it’s just sex!


4 posted on 05/19/2014 6:02:40 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Gamecock

ive always thought it was sort counter productive to Christianity for the most devout to not marry and procreate.


7 posted on 05/19/2014 6:07:36 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Gamecock

Trouble with celibacy in the church in Africa
http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/trouble-celibacy-church-africa


9 posted on 05/19/2014 6:13:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Gamecock

TTIUWOP.


10 posted on 05/19/2014 6:14:51 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Gamecock
Great movie! - The Crime of Father Amaro (El Crimen Del Padre Amaro) - Must see film!
28 posted on 05/19/2014 7:09:34 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Gamecock
So, if the Catholic Church should take the advice of 26 women -- all of whom admit to sinning gravely by fornicating with priests -- and change her policies, all I need is to find 26 women in adulterous affairs with PCA pastors to make the case that the PCA should drop its outmoded insistence on monogamy, right?

Shouldn't be hard. And, remember, Luther couldn't find anything in Scripture prohibiting polygamy. It's practically a Protestant tradition!

35 posted on 05/19/2014 7:58:57 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Gamecock

Seems to me these women are predatorial psychos who want the attention and reparations.


37 posted on 05/19/2014 8:26:29 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Gamecock

I am not supporting a wife in the collection.I know a priest who’s wife died and has eight children,all grown.I am not supporting a wife.


42 posted on 05/19/2014 8:35:30 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Gamecock

People have it all backwards.

The Catholic Church does not forbid priests to marry. The Catholic Church chooses priests from among those who have chosen to be celibate and to be perfectly continent.

The primary point of celibacy is not the practical advantages, although they are real. The primary point is the person’s relationship with God. Choosing virginity is recommended by Christ Himself.

Are there unfaithful priests and religious? Of course. Are there mediocrities in the priesthood and religious life? Of course.

Evidently the Catholic Church believes that, regardless of the existence of failures and mediocrities, faithfulness to the words of Jesus is worthwhile.


61 posted on 05/20/2014 5:46:44 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Gamecock

I’m not Catholic, so what they do on this issue is a matter of complete indifference to me.

But did somebody hold a gun to these men’s heads and force them to become priests? Did they not know what they were committing to?

You know, if I made a vow to God, I would be a little hesitant aboaut breaking it, even if I believed, as I do in this case, that God didn’t demand it of me.

I would be less so if I made a vow that God would seriously disapprove of like, say, killing someone for some wrong he did.

And what about the women? didn’t they know they were entering into a relationship with a priest?

So, whose responsibility is it that they are in a situation that they find intolerable? Theirs or the Church? I say theirs.

Finally, if a man finds that he cannot live with the obligations of the priesthood, why does he not leave it? This is a case of people wanting to have their cake and eaat it too. They do not have the moral courage to make a difficult decision.

All that said, my understanding is that celibacy is a tradition and not church Dogma, and I think they should change it.

But it’s not really my business. I’m not Catholic.


73 posted on 05/20/2014 7:44:55 AM PDT by chesley
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To: Gamecock

More damning than the lack of celibacy of these priests, to my mind, is the fact they had to lie about it constantly — directly, or by omission.


75 posted on 05/20/2014 7:52:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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