Father Barron v. Bart Ehrman (Agnostic NT Scholar)

http://the-american-catholic.com/ ^ | April 16, 2014 | Donald R. McClarey

[NKP_Vet]

In the category of mismatched adversaries, Father Barron gives us a striking example today:

In this most recent tome, Ehrman lays out what is actually a very old thesis, going back at least to the 18th century and repeated ad nauseam in skeptical circles ever since, namely, that Jesus was a simple itinerant preacher who never claimed to be divine and whose “resurrection” was in fact an invention of his disciples who experienced hallucinations of their master after his death. Of course Ehrman, like so many of his skeptical colleagues across the centuries, breathlessly presents this thesis as though he has made a brilliant discovery.

But basically, it’s the same old story. When I was a teenager, I read British Biblical scholar Hugh Schonfield’s Passover Plot, which lays out the same narrative, and just a few months ago, I read Reza Aslan’s Zealot, which pursues a very similar line, and I’m sure next Christmas or Easter I will read still another iteration of the theory.

And so, once more into the breach. Ehrman’s major argument for the thesis that Jesus did not consider himself divine is that explicit statements of Jesus’s divine identity can be found only in the later fourth Gospel of John, whereas the three Synoptic Gospels, earlier and thus presumably more historically reliable, do not feature such statements from Jesus himself or the Gospel writers. This is so much nonsense. It is indeed the case that the most direct affirmations of divinity are found in John — “I and the Father are one;” “before Abraham was I am;” “He who sees me sees the Father,” etc.

[NKP_Vet]

Father Robert Barron takes apart this athiest/agnostic, whatever he calls himself now. By the way this goofball leftist is the "Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies" at UNC Chapel Hill. Can you imagine being taught about Christianity by an agnostic? CNN loves to interview this idiot.

[Biggirl]

Good grief, this happens around each Easter!

[Biggirl]

Anybody who doubts what Jesus did, just simply study the legendary “ Shroud of Turin.”

[.45 Long Colt]

Anyone who doubts should study God’s Word. The Scriptures are the grounds of faith, not some old rag, even if that rag is what many claim it is.

“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”
2 Timothy 2:15

Christians walk by faith, not by sight. Most who saw Him in the flesh did not believe. How much more so those who see rags, bones of saints, and any other physical object?

“While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.”
—2 Corinthians 4:18

2 Timothy 2:19 says, “Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.”

“The foundation of God standeth sure” because it is built on HIM as revealed by the apostles and prophets in the Scriptures. If a man wants to find Christ, he must go to the Scriptures, not gaze upon manmade things.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Hey Brother .45, Nice to see you today, I'm logging off at Noon.

You're not much for the Incarnation, I see. Kind of pointless, hey?

[.45 Long Colt]

That’s ridiculous. How could we possibly know anything about the Incarnate Christ without His Word?

[ottbmare]

Dr William Lane Craig makes mincemeat of the very silly Ehrman, here: Logic and Scholarship Show that Bart Ehrman Is A Moron

[Biggirl]

The Shroud COMFIRMS scripture, THANKS BE TO GOD.

[Biggirl]

God Bless you and have a GOOD and BLESSED Happy And Holy Easter!

[.45 Long Colt]

I looked all over for the verse that instructs believers to point non-believers to relics. I never found it, but if did find this:

“Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.”
—John 17:17

I also found this:

“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.”
—2 Timothy 3:16-17

The Bible contains all a sinner needs to be “perfect” before God. He doesn’t need the confirmation of relics.

Good News for Catholics: The Certainty of the Written Word of Truth
http://www.bereanbeacon.org/article/sorted/02_Good_News_for_Catholics/The_Certainty_of_the_Written_Word_of_Truth.pdf

For anyone out there looking for further understanding:

Salvation: God’s Graciousness in Christ, and the Roman Catholic Doctrine of Justification
http://www.bereanbeacon.org/article/sorted/02_Good_News_for_Catholics/Salvation_Gods_Graciousness_in_Christ.pdf