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Did Jesus go to hell between His death and resurrection? (Dispensational Caucus)
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Posted on 04/13/2014 11:16:00 AM PDT by wmfights

Question: "Did Jesus go to hell between His death and resurrection?"

Answer: There is a great deal of confusion in regards to this question. This concept comes primarily from the Apostles' Creed, which states, “He descended into hell.” There are also a few Scriptures which, depending on how they are translated, describe Jesus going to “hell.” In studying this issue, it is important to first understand what the Bible teaches about the realm of the dead.

In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means the “place of the dead” or the “place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent of sheol is hades which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear distinction between the two. Hell (the lake of fire) is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades is a temporary place. So, no, Jesus did not go to hell because hell is a future realm, only put into effect after the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15).

Sheol/hades is a realm with two divisions (Matthew 11:23, 16:18; Luke 10:15, 16:23; Acts 2:27-31), the abodes of the saved and the lost. The abode of the saved was called “paradise” and “Abraham's bosom.” The abodes of the saved and the lost are separated by a “great chasm” (Luke 16:26). When Jesus ascended to heaven, He took the occupants of paradise (believers) with Him (Ephesians 4:8-10). The lost side of sheol/hades has remained unchanged. All unbelieving dead go there awaiting their final judgment in the future. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes, according to Ephesians 4:8-10 and 1 Peter 3:18-20.

Some of the confusion has arisen from such passages as Psalm 16:10-11 as translated in the King James Version, “For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption....Thou wilt show me the path of life.” “Hell” is not a correct translation of this verse. A correct reading would be “the grave” or “sheol.” Jesus said to the thief beside Him, “Today you will be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43). Jesus’ body was in the tomb; His soul/spirit went to the “paradise” side of sheol/hades. He then removed all the righteous dead from paradise and took them with Him to heaven. Unfortunately, in many translations of the Bible, translators are not consistent, or correct, in how they translate the Hebrew and Greek words for “sheol,” “hades,” and “hell.”

Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross and His suffering in our place that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ's struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross.

When Jesus cried upon the cross, “Oh, Father, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46), it was then that He was separated from the Father because of the sin poured out upon Him. As He gave up His spirit, He said, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit” (Luke 23:46). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to the paradise side of hades. Jesus did not go to hell. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: afterlife; dispensationalism; easter; hades; jesus; paradise; resurrection
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To: wmfights
No I don't know what you're referring to about the Keys of Hell and Death.

Rev 1:18
81 posted on 04/13/2014 6:23:31 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Pan_Yan

A day is like a thousand years.


85 posted on 04/13/2014 6:28:01 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: wmfights

There are interpretations that bring Moses to Heaven.


86 posted on 04/13/2014 6:29:59 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: wmfights
R2z : My understanding is that Jesus the King of the Jews descended into (your preferred word goes here) and came out with the Keys of Hell and Death.Do we agree on this?

wmfights : No I don't know what you're referring to about the Keys of Hell and Death. Also, Jesus Christ did not descend into Hell. He went to Paradise/Abraham's Bossom. The "Gates of Hell" could not keep Him out, or hold the saints in.

I think you may have misread my earlier post to you.
87 posted on 04/13/2014 6:35:27 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero
Rev 1:18

What you're pointing at is the Great White Throne Judgement when the other half of Hades is emptied forever and it's occupants judged and condemned to Hell.

Rev. 20:13 The Sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.

My reading of this is that the condemned will be raised body and soul for judgement. The Old Testament Saints, or New Testament Saints, are not going to judged at the White Throne Judgement. We have been saved by Grace through Faith, our works are only a reflection of our faith not a means to salvation.

Thanks for posting the verse. I hadn't thought about that before.

88 posted on 04/13/2014 6:37:22 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: eyedigress
There are interpretations that bring Moses to Heaven.

I don't know them.

89 posted on 04/13/2014 6:38:58 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: wmfights
What you're pointing at is the Great White Throne Judgement when the other half of Hades is emptied forever and it's occupants judged and condemned to Hell.

You are incorrect; I am not pointing at anything other than showing you Revelation 1:18, as it appears in virtually all translations that were made in the light of what The Lord Jesus Christ said about those who add or subtract to that particular Book.
90 posted on 04/13/2014 6:44:30 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: wmfights

Did Moses die in hell?


91 posted on 04/13/2014 6:45:14 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: eyedigress
Did Moses die in hell?

I don't know what you mean.

92 posted on 04/13/2014 6:48:06 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: wmfights

Alright. Did Moses get the Promised Land?


93 posted on 04/13/2014 6:52:14 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: wmfights
wnfights : No I don't know what you're referring to about the Keys of Hell and Death. Also, Jesus Christ did not descend into Hell.

Is there Scriptural evidence to support these statements you have made? Especially the latter one.
94 posted on 04/13/2014 6:56:28 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: eyedigress
Did Moses get the Promised Land?

No

Why not just ask me directly what you're getting at. I try to be direct and posted this as a Dispensational Caucus to avoid all the "gotcha" stuff we see on open threads. I'm open to learning something new.

My point about not knowing if Moses went directly to Heaven is based on only 2 people in history never dying, Enoch and Elijah. Also, a satisfactory sacrifice had not yet been made at the time he died.

95 posted on 04/13/2014 6:58:02 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: wmfights
Also, a satisfactory sacrifice had not yet been made at the time he died.

Thank you! NOW the problem is evident. You are not taking into account...Eternity. We live in Time...one of God's most mysterious to me creations in which we all find ourselves, at this time.
96 posted on 04/13/2014 7:02:53 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: imardmd1

I agree with your assessment, although I believe He only ascended after the 40 days here.

Body to the grave, soul to Abraham’s Bosom/Paradise as a compartment of Hades, and His human spirit to God the Father.

After 3 days he was resurrected in the new body, the First fruits, after having also spoken to those incarcerated in Hades, (I believe some reference is also made of His speaking to those bound in Tartarus and even the Abyss).

I recall him giving warning to others not to touch Him until He was presented in Heaven between the Resurrection and the Ascension.


97 posted on 04/13/2014 7:03:13 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: wmfights

OK, no need to get upset.

Deep in scripture Jesus was missing for 3 days to save the Old Testament. He also denied Satan’s death for the Gentiles.

I will leave it there.


98 posted on 04/13/2014 7:06:11 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Cvengr
I recall him giving warning to others not to touch Him until He was presented in Heaven between the Resurrection and the Ascension.

He was asking that particular Mary to let go and not hold on to Him. It appears she may have already touched Him, as Thomas was commanded to do.
99 posted on 04/13/2014 7:09:25 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: wmfights

You are doing well to understand why you are here.

You asked for it. Believe me.


100 posted on 04/13/2014 7:14:30 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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