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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

We could debate about being uninformed vs. misinformed by faith in church teaching.

All biblical scholars subscribe to the proposition that the books of the New Testament were written decades or centuries AFTER the events they describe—not by the actual Disciples.

Here’s a take by Bart Ehman, a professor of religion in his book about the contradictions in the Bible

“In Mark’s Gospel, Jesus is not interested in teaching about himself. But when you read John’s Gospel, that’s virtually the only thing Jesus talks about is who he is, what his identity is, where he came from,” Ehrman says. “This is completely unlike anything that you find in Mark or in Matthew and Luke. And historically it creates all sorts of problems, because if the historical Jesus actually went around saying that he was God, it’s very hard to believe that Matthew, Mark and Luke left out that part — you know, as if that part wasn’t important to mention. But in fact, they don’t mention it. And so this view of the divinity of Jesus on his own lips is found only in our latest Gospel, the Gospel of John.”


44 posted on 04/12/2014 10:14:57 AM PDT by wildbill
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All biblical scholars subscribe to the proposition that the books of the New Testament were written decades or centuries AFTER the events they describe—not by the actual Disciples.

Well that's nonsense, I can name quite a few who disagree with you vehemently, and many more going back 2,000 years. The modern liberals do not possess legitimate scholarship, and are easily disproved by the testimony of history and the texts themselves. Ignatius, for example, was calling Jesus God, reporting the virgin birth, and quoting from the Gospels, and he died an old man between 95-115AD, a martyr for his faith. He had also been a disciple of the Apostle John.

And historically it creates all sorts of problems, because if the historical Jesus actually went around saying that he was God, it’s very hard to believe that Matthew, Mark and Luke left out that part —

This fellow is an imbecile. Here is Matthew testifying to Christ's deity here:

Mat_1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

And the Trinitarian formula in baptism:

Mat_28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

It was taken for granted that the Messiah, in fact, was God Himself, thus every testimony of Christ being the Son of God, was the same as saying that He was the second member of the Trinity.

45 posted on 04/12/2014 12:35:31 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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