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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; editor-surveyor
Can you answer the question i posed in post #44. If a Jewish boy is born on the 14th day, on what day must he be circumcised on according to YHvH?

I'm sure you can find the answer in Genesis 17 : 10-14
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
74 posted on 04/07/2014 9:57:34 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012; verga; editor-surveyor; A child of Yah; narses; boatbums; BikerTrash; captmar-vell

ok, here is the answer to the question posed to ES in post #44 that he does not want any part of -

a jewish boy born on the 14th of nisan MUST be circumcised on the eighth day as Uriel points out as commanded by Genesis 17. the eighth day is the 21st of nisan and here is how that is calculated:

nisan 14 - day one ( our wednesday )
nisan 15 - day two ( our thursday )
nisan 16 - day three ( our friday )
nisan 17 - day four ( our saturday )
nisan 18 - day five ( our sunday )
nisan 19 - day six ( our monday )
nisan 20 - day seven ( our tuesday )
nisan 21 - day eight ( our wednesday )

well, well, we can now visually see why ES ran did not and could not answer the question -

if Jesus died on nisan 14 and rose on nisan 18, THAT WOULD BE DAY FIVE. THE SCRIPTURES SAY OVER AND OVER, JESUS ROSE ON THE THIRD DAY.

We must count days as the Scriptures do and as the Jews would have when they heard Jesus declare HE WOULD RISE ON THE THIRD DAY.

let’s look at how Jesus counted days...suppose Jesus was speaking in Luke 13:32 on nisan 14, on what day would he finish his course?

nisan 14 - today
nisan 15 - tomorrow
nisan 16 - the third day

this is entirely consistent with the chart above used to calculate when is the eighth day for circumcision.

Christians and Jews can both count to three, cultists seem to have trouble with this for some reason.

According to the Scriptures and the 2,000 year teaching of the Universal Church, here is how the three days is calculated:

nisan 15 - friday - day one
nisan 16 - sabbath - day two
nisan 17 - first day of the week - THE THIRD DAY

sorry folks, i can’t make it any plainer than that.


75 posted on 04/07/2014 12:13:56 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: UriÂ’el-2012; verga; editor-surveyor; boatbums; A child of Yah; BikerTrash; captmar-vell; narses; ..

ok, having proved with 100% certainty from the Gospel of Luke alone that Jesus died on Friday 3:00pm and rose on the third day, the first day of the week, i now will turn to why the wednesday date of Jesus death as outlined in post #16 is impossible.

the false narrative in post #16 assumes TWO days of preparation that week and TWO sabbath days that week. the 14th and 16th supposedly are the days of preparation and the 15th and 17th of nisan are the supposed sabbath days.
IS THIS WHAT WE FIND IN THE SCRIPTURES?

All four Gospels contain the events of this week AND ALL FOUR GOSPELS AGREE WITH ONLY ONE DAY OF PREPARATION AND ONE SABBATH DAY.

Let’s look at all four:

John - 19:31 is the day of preparation, v 31-42 all happen on this day of preparation. Chapter 20:1 begins immediately on the first day of the week.
John = One day of preparation, one sabbath day.

Luke - 23:54 is the day of preparation and thru v55 continues on this day. v56 mentions “the sabbath”. Chapter 24:1 begins on the first day of the week.
Luke = one day of preparation and one sabbath day.

Matthew - 27:1-61 all occurs on the day of preparation. 27:62-66 is the sabbath day. Chapter 28 begins on the first day of the week.
Matthew = one day of preparation and one sabbath day.

Mark is very interesting as it was written with a Gentile audience in mind. Chapter 15:42 explains the day of preparation is the day before the sabbath, every Jew knows this already, so this was clearly written for the benefit of the gentiles.
Mark - Chapter 15:42-47 all occurs on the day of preparation. Chapter 16 immediately mentions “the sabbath was past”, using the same “the sabbath” contained in 15:42. Chapter 16:2 immediately becomes the first day of the week, after “the sabbath” had past.
Mark - one day of preparation and one sabbath.

All four Gospels are very clear and consistent - one day of preparation and one sabbath day.

The other obvious elephant in the room as to why the narrative in post #16 is false, had the 16th of nisan indeed been a day of preparation, the women would have bought the spices and prepared the body on that day! They would not have waited another two days when there would be a stink to the body.

the other elephant in the room is, the Apostles knew what day Jesus died and what day He rose from the dead. These events are the heart of the Christian message, there is ZERO chance that the early Church did not absolutely know what day Jesus died and all the early Church Fathers agree it was on Friday.


89 posted on 04/07/2014 8:20:24 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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