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To: UriÂ’el-2012; verga; editor-surveyor; boatbums; A child of Yah; BikerTrash; captmar-vell; narses; ..

ok, having proved with 100% certainty from the Gospel of Luke alone that Jesus died on Friday 3:00pm and rose on the third day, the first day of the week, i now will turn to why the wednesday date of Jesus death as outlined in post #16 is impossible.

the false narrative in post #16 assumes TWO days of preparation that week and TWO sabbath days that week. the 14th and 16th supposedly are the days of preparation and the 15th and 17th of nisan are the supposed sabbath days.
IS THIS WHAT WE FIND IN THE SCRIPTURES?

All four Gospels contain the events of this week AND ALL FOUR GOSPELS AGREE WITH ONLY ONE DAY OF PREPARATION AND ONE SABBATH DAY.

Let’s look at all four:

John - 19:31 is the day of preparation, v 31-42 all happen on this day of preparation. Chapter 20:1 begins immediately on the first day of the week.
John = One day of preparation, one sabbath day.

Luke - 23:54 is the day of preparation and thru v55 continues on this day. v56 mentions “the sabbath”. Chapter 24:1 begins on the first day of the week.
Luke = one day of preparation and one sabbath day.

Matthew - 27:1-61 all occurs on the day of preparation. 27:62-66 is the sabbath day. Chapter 28 begins on the first day of the week.
Matthew = one day of preparation and one sabbath day.

Mark is very interesting as it was written with a Gentile audience in mind. Chapter 15:42 explains the day of preparation is the day before the sabbath, every Jew knows this already, so this was clearly written for the benefit of the gentiles.
Mark - Chapter 15:42-47 all occurs on the day of preparation. Chapter 16 immediately mentions “the sabbath was past”, using the same “the sabbath” contained in 15:42. Chapter 16:2 immediately becomes the first day of the week, after “the sabbath” had past.
Mark - one day of preparation and one sabbath.

All four Gospels are very clear and consistent - one day of preparation and one sabbath day.

The other obvious elephant in the room as to why the narrative in post #16 is false, had the 16th of nisan indeed been a day of preparation, the women would have bought the spices and prepared the body on that day! They would not have waited another two days when there would be a stink to the body.

the other elephant in the room is, the Apostles knew what day Jesus died and what day He rose from the dead. These events are the heart of the Christian message, there is ZERO chance that the early Church did not absolutely know what day Jesus died and all the early Church Fathers agree it was on Friday.


89 posted on 04/07/2014 8:20:24 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; UriÂ’el-2012; verga; boatbums; A child of Yah; BikerTrash; ...

There is no “false narrative” except in your misinterpretation of the statements in Luke.

The 14th of the Aviv is always a preparation day. the 16th day is a regular business day, being the 6th day of the week, and the 17th is the regular weekly Sabbath.

This is indeed what we find in the scriptures if we look at all of the gospels, and don’t selectively read.

When one connects Yeshua’s testimony to the rest of the facts, there is no conflict, unlike the pagan catholic twisting to put the Passover on the regular Sabbath, which is a rare occurrence in any case.

The gospels do call for a regular business day between the Passover and the weekly sabbath, which is the day on which the embalming materials were purchased and applied. These things couldn’t be done on any Sabbath or high day in Judea.

The gospels clearly call for two Sabbath days separated by a regular commercial day, both logically and textually.


90 posted on 04/07/2014 8:44:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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ok, having proved with 100% certainty from the Gospel of Luke alone that Jesus died on Friday 3:00pm and rose on the third day, the first day of the week, i now will turn to why the wednesday date of Jesus death as outlined in post #16 is impossible.

If you were familiar with YHvH's WORD and His Feast Days
you would fully understand when Yah'shua removed all sin
and when He arose as the First Fruits offering to YHvH.

YHvH's Feast of Hag Matzoh as the day when all sin(leaven)
is removed from the bread of life.

In addition the day following the Shabbat following the beginning
of Passover is YHvH's Feast of First Fruits.

What is not important is which Pagan Day these things happened.

Remember Yah'shua was/is/will always be a Jewish King.
All of the Apostles were Torah observant messianic Jews.

The wheels came off the cart in 325 CE at Nicea when the Pagan
Roman Emperor created the Roman "church" out of whole cloth
based not on the WORD but on Pagan Traditions and Worship.

Seek the face of YHvH in His WORD;
Reject the Pagan Traditions of man.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
92 posted on 04/08/2014 9:37:13 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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