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April 3, AD 33
First Things ^ | April 3, 2014 | by Andreas J. Köstenberger and Justin Taylor

Posted on 04/03/2014 4:52:36 PM PDT by Rashputin

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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

That is an impossibility, no matter what day he died on.

Three days and three nights are required, exactly as with Jonah.

No events of the crucifixion had anything to do with “sunday.” The term “the first day of the week” has to be taken with the Biblical rendering of time, not the pagan rendering.

It was all over with before ‘sunday’ ever happened.


41 posted on 04/06/2014 6:56:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: boatbums

Thanks for your reply Boatbums,

It leaves me wondering how someone could be the author of a book, that is, that they could spend that much time, effort and energy into researching such an important event, and yet still arrive with no apparent spiritual discernment,

Because tradition is elevated beyond truth, ‘teaching for doctrines the commandments of men’ they wont be able to understand the times and seasons past which also speak of those almost upon us again. The prophetic outline of this was given in advance and provides a more sure witness to those that will see and hear,

“Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.” Mark 7:13

They likely also cannot perceive this age is about to close soon and that Jesus will rule and reign on the throne of David, on this Earth, from Jerusalem,

These are the ones that Jesus spoke about in Revelation Chapter 3, that call themselves Jews and are not,


42 posted on 04/06/2014 7:08:49 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: editor-surveyor; boatbums

Luke 24:1 “ but on the first day of the week......”

Luke 24:13 “ that very day......”

Luke 24:21 “ yes, and besides all this, it is NOW the third day since this happened”

Luke 24:45-46 “ then he opened their minds to understand the scriptures, and said to them “thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and ON THE THIRD DAY rise from the dead”

(That is an impossibility, no matter what day he died on.) - Luke would seem to disagree with you.


43 posted on 04/06/2014 7:24:26 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: editor-surveyor; boatbums

“Yeshua was crucified late on a “wednesday” afternoon on the 14th day of the Biblical month of the Aviv.”

let’s count days shall we. If a Jewish baby boy was born on the 14th day of the Biblical month of the Aviv, on what day of the Biblical month of Aviv must he be circumcised on according to the Scriptures?


44 posted on 04/06/2014 7:28:28 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Thanks, that is very true, and I wish more people understood this linkage,

If anyone would care to research the Feast Days and make a list of all of the historical events which have occurred on them, it would provide them much deeper insights and truths into his overall plan for redemption as well as the timeline for it, and of those fulfilled, which is always completed on the very day of the Feast itself,

Its a witness to us being shadows of those not yet completed, (meaning Trumpets, Yom Kippur and Tabernacles) where we can know their ultimate completion will also resolve on the very day of the Feast itself in whatever future year sees these events come to the full,


45 posted on 04/06/2014 7:36:38 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
The specific first day during Passover that year was
important because it was YHvH's Feast of First Fruits.

Yah'shua rose on YHvH's Feast of First Fruits
It begins at sundown on Saturday.

It always occurs on the day following the Shabbat
following the start of Passover.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

46 posted on 04/06/2014 7:44:18 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: captmar-vell; boatbums

I didn’t realize the Gospel of Luke was “tradition”, i thought it was “scriptura”.

btw - for Christians, Jesus our King is ruling from Jerusalem above which is free, already.

btw- the earthly Jerusalem and the rest of the earth will be burned up once the day of the Lord comes.


47 posted on 04/06/2014 7:48:02 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

When Luke says “the first day of the week,” he means what you call “saturday evening.”

That is when the traditional celebration of the closing of the sabbath and beginning of the work week is held. It is called Havdalah.


48 posted on 04/06/2014 7:49:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012; editor-surveyor

uh oh ES, Uri’el agrees Jesus rose on the first day of the week.


49 posted on 04/06/2014 7:51:52 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; UriÂ’el-2012

You misinterpret what UriÂ’el-2012 is saying.

The days of the week must be counted by the Biblical method.

All days begin at sunset. Sunset is precisely when he arose.


50 posted on 04/06/2014 7:57:12 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; boatbums

wednesday - 4th day of the week
thursday - 5th day of the week
friday - 6th day of the week
sabbath - 7th day of the week
sunday - 1st day of the week

if Jesus died on the 4th day of the week as you claim, how do you arrive at any other day than friday the sixth day of the week as “the third day” when he said he would rise?
as can be seen above, the first day of the week is the fifth day from wednesday.

you do realize when reckoning days according to the Scriptures, today is day one, tomorrow is day two and the day after tomorrow IS THE THIRD DAY?


51 posted on 04/06/2014 7:58:44 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; captmar-vell; boatbums

>> “the earthly Jerusalem and the rest of the earth will be burned up once the day of the Lord comes.” <<

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No.

That will be at the end of “The Day of Yehova,” 1000 years later.


52 posted on 04/06/2014 7:59:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; boatbums

You err by counting pagan days.

Yehova’s days have no name and begin at sunset.
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53 posted on 04/06/2014 8:01:21 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

All days begin at sunset. Sunset is precisely when he arose.

LOL, if he rose at sunset, he rose on the first day of the week. sunset is when the feast of first fruits begins and this is the day he rose.

just so there is no confusion on your position, do you believe he rose on the 7th day of the week or the first day of the week?


54 posted on 04/06/2014 8:04:43 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; editor-surveyor
Followers of YHvH count days as outlined in Genesis 1.

Evening then morning
Sundown to sundown

Roman Pagans count days from midnight to midnight

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

55 posted on 04/06/2014 8:05:53 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Sunset is the point of division of the days.

It marked the beginning of the first day.

He rose as he completed his 3rd full day in the tomb.


56 posted on 04/06/2014 8:11:54 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

i asked you a question in post #44, let’s count days as Yehova would have us do according to His written Scriptures.

can you answer the question?


57 posted on 04/06/2014 8:12:31 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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58 posted on 04/06/2014 8:13:20 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

You reject the counting of days as given in scripture.

I posted as per scripture, and you kick and squirm against it.

Sundown wednesday begins day one, and sundown saturday ends day three.


59 posted on 04/06/2014 8:17:34 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

60 posted on 04/06/2014 8:18:33 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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