April 3, AD 33

First Things ^ | April 3, 2014 | by Andreas J. Köstenberger and Justin Taylor

[one Lord one faith one baptism]

2,000 years of orthodox, historical Christianity can hardly be described as a cult.......but to a Judaizer, i guess anything is possible.

[PhilipFreneau]

>>>What would you know about salvation?<<<

I know salvation came out of Judea. Does that help you?

>>>Have you ever read “Flatlander?”<<<

I don’t recall. Is that in the old or new testament? We are talking about salvation, aren’t we?

Philip

[verga]

Putting them together in a haphazard way is not scriptural, and since this was done by non-Catholics it is probably not Christian.

[editor-surveyor]

Correlating them in a smooth flowing unbroken chronology is in no way ‘haphazard.’ It leads to more rapid assimilation of them.

Catholic is not “Christian.”

[editor-surveyor]

I was talking about understanding, and Flatlander has your number.
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[Uri’el-2012]

Perhaps your Jesus is a Greek speaking Roman citizen.

But Yah'shua is and will always be a Jewish King
ruling the world from Jerusalem

His NAME in Hebrew: Yah'shua means "YHvH is/be my salvation"

Which is why one must call on His NAME for salvation.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[one Lord one faith one baptism]

Which is why one must call on His NAME for salvation.

are you saying only those who speak hebrew can be saved?

revelation 7:9 would appear to disagree with you:

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and tribes, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

fyi - revelation is the last book in the Christian Bible.

[one Lord one faith one baptism]

“But Yah’shua is and will always be a Jewish King
ruling the world from Jerusalem”

Jesus is the King of Israel, in which there is neither Jew nor Greek.

He is currently reigning as King today from Jerusalem, which is above and free.

[Uri’el-2012]

2,000 years of orthodox, historical Christianity can hardly be described as a cult.......but to a Judaizer, i guess anything is possible.

1,689 years of Roman paganism masqurading
as state sponsered orthodoxy.

You demonstrate again and again how one can
be so ignorant of the WORD.

If you were familiar with Galatians you would
know that the Judaizers required full conversion
to the Traditions of Judaism before one could
be a Messianic follower of Yah'shua .

Paul on the other hand said one could have
salvation by calling on the NAME of YHvH.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[one Lord one faith one baptism]

the Judaizers taught the Torah must be kept.......sound familiar????

Paul taught the Torah was replaced by the new covenant, Jesus kept the Torah PERFECTLY in our place.

you keep alluding to “roman paganism” and previously stated that Constantine founded the “roman church” at Nicea in 325ad, but never provided proof for the statement.
how did Constantine do this??
where were the Judaizers to oppose him??

[verga]

?Correlating them in a smooth flowing unbroken chronology is in no way ‘haphazard.’ It leads to more rapid assimilation of them.

So the way God wrote it isn't good enough for the protestants? Okay thank you for clearing that up.

[one Lord one faith one baptism]

Uri’el - a question for you

must a male baby born in April 2014 be circumcised on the eighth day as required by the Torah?

that can be answered either yes or no.

[Uri’el-2012]

are you saying only those who speak hebrew can be saved?

revelation 7:9 would appear to disagree with you:

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and tribes, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Of cause not! How xenophobic !

Seriously one needs a sound system of
hermeneutics and a rigorous exegesis
of the whole text of the WORD.

Revelation 7:9 begins with Meta houtos t.e.
After these things having taken place:
from here on are future events.

Again a clear reading Revelation is that the
church is no longer mentioned after Rev 4:1.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Uri’el-2012]

It is interesting you would write gibberish and claim it means “calling on the name of Jesus Christ;

If I understand your statement correctly you believe
that the NAME of YHvH is gibberish.

Mazol Tov

Have a wonderful journey on the wide road of life.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Uri’el-2012]

Paul taught the Torah was replaced by the new covenant,

I expect you mean the New Covenant
as explained in Jeremiah 31:31-34.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[one Lord one faith one baptism]

as fulfilled by Luke 22:20

[Uri’el-2012]

,as fulfilled by Luke 22:20.

Again you fail to read the full context of the WORD.

The third cup of the Passover is the cup of Redemption.
Metaphorically the wine is His blood.

Go back and with comprehension read Jeremiah 31.

If we were in the New Covenant,
we would not need this discussion.

As the Torah would be written on your heart,
your circumcised heart.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[one Lord one faith one baptism]

metaphorically?

Metaphorically the wine is His blood.

hmm, that’s not what my pagan Bible says.

[Uri’el-2012]

metaphorically?

Metaphorically the wine is His blood.

hmm, that’s not what my pagan Bible says.

Perhaps it would be if the Roman "church"
stopped the cultic magic trick of claiming
to change a Pesach Matzoh
into the body of the creator of the universe.

What one needs to consider is celebrating Passover
as Jesus commanded : Do this in remembrance of me.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach