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To: NYer

That is not the cup of a carpenter!


3 posted on 04/01/2014 11:57:53 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: cotton1706

He was not just a carpenter.


6 posted on 04/01/2014 11:59:55 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: cotton1706
That is not the cup of a carpenter!

I totally agree with you . . . way too too too expensive looking for a humble carpenter.

17 posted on 04/01/2014 12:08:16 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: cotton1706

“That is not the cup of a carpenter!”

Exactly. I pictured a red Solo.


25 posted on 04/01/2014 12:26:47 PM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: cotton1706

All note:

The story circulating is that through authentication methods, it is expected that the treasured cup was adorned long after Jesus used it at “The Last Supper.”

Pros and Cons of the claim:

It is plausible that someone would have recognized the significance of saving things Jesus used, especially so close to his death and resurrection. He was at the peak of his celebrity status with the common Jews of the time. This is why the “Shroud of Turin” still garners so much attention (whether real or not). Also, Jesus made his place with the average folks of the time and it can be expected that there would be little more fanfare or luxuries for a Passover Meal that Jesus partook in than others. It is likely that “the best china” was used (so to speak). But a chalice laced in gold and jewels would likely not have been owned by the host of the event.

On the flip side, because of the war and destruction over the years, many expected artifacts that should have been saved from Jesus’ time here. As I said, he was famous and infamous (depending on your perspective) but certainly very well known. The story suggests that Muslim’s dating back to some conquest acquired the cup and adorned it because of the importance to Christians in order to offer it up as a gift. My problem here is that there was little preserved of the time during the turmoil in the region. Who is to say that a warrior would have the idea to save an ordinary chalice because the victor of a warring religion once drank from it. Like the temple, I would expect it would be lost in history.

I don’t know one way or another. But there are no soul saving qualities in an old cup. Fun to consider, however.


30 posted on 04/01/2014 12:31:01 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: cotton1706

Agreed. In Jesus time and station in life the goblet he drank from at the last supper was likely made of ceramic or wood.


60 posted on 04/01/2014 3:13:11 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: cotton1706; Zathras; All

“That is not the cup of a carpenter!”

Guys, read the article. It’s two simple stone cups which were combined with the gold long after they were made.


69 posted on 04/01/2014 4:57:26 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG!)
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To: cotton1706

are you Indiana Jones?


71 posted on 04/01/2014 6:01:38 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: cotton1706
That is not the cup of a carpenter!

The actual "grail cup" is encased in the gold and jewels. . . it's made out of onyx. . . Stone. When Jesus might have used it, it looked like a stone bowl. That COULD have been the cup used by a carpenter at a home of a wealthier man hosting a meal.

73 posted on 04/01/2014 9:26:57 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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