Posted on 02/26/2014 9:49:13 AM PST by Dr. Thorne
Following are my notes on a sermon that I preached shortly after I was converted from the Catholic Church back in 1962. It was the first sermon that I preached. Introduction:
In this lesson I want to state some of the reasons I left the Catholic Church. I do not wish to state any of the personal experiences I had as result of leaving. I will mention, though, that I came from a large, devout Catholic family of twelve children. I attended Trinity High School in Louisville, Kentucky. At the time of my intense Scriptural study, I had two brothers who were enrolled in Catholic seminaries studying to be priests. I also want to state I did not leave the Catholic Church because of some evil that I had done or that was done to me. I left the Catholic Church because I came to believe that it was contrary to the Bible. This I will endeavor to show in this study.
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These are just two of their stories.
It amazes how some can use Holy Scripture to arrive at the unscriptural doctrine of sola scriptura.
“…If you look at a thing nine hundred and ninety-nine times, you are perfectly safe; if you look at it the thousandth time, you are in frightful danger of seeing it for the first time.” G.K. Chesterton
Who knows, perhaps some day he will end up here: http://chnetwork.org
;-)
Then you, Joseph Smith, L. Ron Hubbard, Jim Jones, Warren Jeffs, Noam Chomsky, and Mohammed have something in common, don't you?
More post-enlightenment protestant lies and garbage. I left the Catholic Church becuase they are not mentally predisposed to test their religious assertions? What is this a science experiment? Then the normal lies and distortions about biblical sufficiency and the papacy. Pretty weak stuff
For full disclosure I am NOT Catholic, but only Christian, no denomination aside from Christian, and also I did not rrad the entire lengthy article, but only scanned it.
I am glad that this article is being allowed to stand!!!!!!
I have no denomination but only Christian, so I am a equal opportunity basher if you will.
I am offended by Catholic Democrats, Priests etc that vote Democrat after claiming they are pro life.
This business of the Pope being any closer to God than I or anybody that invites Jesus into their heart, ridiculous? Yes its even possible that a Pope might never have actually been saved, perhaps never asked Jesus into their life.
There are Priests, ministers in all mainline Churches that have never truly had a experience with the Living Christ.
The idea that a Catholic would accept being pro abortion or pro gay if only the Pope said it was OK??
The Bible The Word Of God Jesus is the only thing we need concern ourselves of.
The ALL Black Church I also have a problem with.
Many mainline protestant Churches are dead as well.
I am more open to the Charismatic Catholic movement, such as the Charismatic Catholic Center in Houston Texas, catch it on tv occasionally .
Mind you they are still victims of Catholicism to a degree, but are open to the Spirit of God, actually wonderful folks, and I realize vast majority of main line Catholics are against them, I also understand the Catholic hierarchy only tolerate them at best.
Mary was wonderful, God Bless her, yes He did Bless her.
But nowhere does the Bible tell us to pray to her or any other so called sainted person.
Saint is simply a follower of Christ. Only one mediator between man and God, the man Christ Jesus, no other name under heaven by which we must be saved.
Posting articles in newspapers, praying to saint anthony etc, that is NOT scriptural
Calling a man Father or Holy Father or his eminence , is also not correct, we only have One Holy Father and thats God.
Other denominations do the same, its not proper to call a man reverend even
We all need to commit our lives to Jesus, thank Him for dying on the cross for our sins, turn from our sins, and live for him.
If we really had Him in our lives we would under no circumstances vote for candidates that were not pro life, pro family
As a Catholic I would say it is more important to the Lord that you worship him sincerely, according to the dictates of your heart and your conscience. If that leads you into a different faith tradition, so be it. He leads His flock to him via many paths.
My Catholic Church is filled with people who show up each week at Mass just going through the motions. No passion or sincerity behind what they are doing. They are there simply because the Church has told them they are obliged to be there. I am sure God prefers sincere worship in any tradition to lifeless perfunctory ceremony.
I will say some of the sniping that goes on between Christian brothers and sisters on these threads can be rather disturbing. The Lord is expecting us to work together to help bring about His Father’s Kingdom. Not endlessly quibble about our doctrinal differences. For soon the night is coming when no man shall work.
Funny, my experience on FR has been exactly the opposite. There is a small but vocal contingent of Catholic bashers who will seize any opportunity, no matter how tangentially related to Catholicism, to attack the Church.
There would be no Bible if not for the Catholic Church.
The Bible never states that all faith must come from the Bible.
For the first 300 years of the Christian Faith, there were very, very few people who had actually read all of Scripture.
Scripture was rare, it was fragile, it was priceless and it was hard to reproduce.
Illiteracy rates were very high until recent times.
More have been saved by the “oral tradition” up to the time of the printing press, than by reading the Bible for themselves.
John said to Jesus, “Teacher, we saw someone driving out demons in your name, and we tried to prevent him because he does not follow us.” Jesus replied, “Do not prevent him. There is no one who performs a mighty deed in my name who can at the same time speak ill of me. For whoever is not against us is for us.”
Shall We Gather At The River .....
"Sometimes we don't see eye to eye
We don't agree, we don't know why
Jesus prayed that we'd be one
so for the sake of God's Own Son ....
Can we put away our differences ... lay down our pride
I think it's time we start turning the tide ...
Broad and easy way, many there are who take it.
So much Catholic cant just sets off the alarms for me...but it’s likely I misunderstand much of what Catholics believe. It is so easy to write off others on a doctrinal basis. Protestants believe a lot of nonsense, too, that has no foundation in Scripture.
I can accept that there are true believers in the Catholic Church, but I always wonder “surely he/she doesn’t believe THAT!” Lol. Wonder if Catholics sometime feel the same about us Protestants?
>>But nowhere does the Bible tell us to pray to her or any other so called sainted person.>>
Catholics do NOT pray to Mary. We ask her to pray to her Son FOR us.
Yes. I agree. But, I would encourage all who are reading this to track down (it is hard to find) an essay by Catholic theologian entitled “Who Is My Neighbor?” It is a wonderfully broad and tolerant treatment of the subject of just who “is saved” and who is not.
There is only one Advocate and Mediator, Christ Jesus. Read 1 Tim, paying close attention to “doctrines of demons”. What denominations forbid to marry?
As a non-Catholic I like your post. Amen brother.
A very few outside Church leaders read it until Guttenberg published it. What is your point?
Don't think so. Although various Christian routes may, probably are, valid. so long as we have the relationship with God and Christ.
But I doubt that any believing Muslim, atheist, pagan, etc. will see the Glory of God, as I can find nothing in the Bible that says there is any way but Christ. Of course, the Bible, or the New Testament alone, may be wrong.
Perhaps that's why God made it so simple to achieve salvation. Just accept Christ as Savior.
What is the scriptural basis for dead in heaven other than the Lord and His Son hearing your prayers/requests?
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