THE (Catholic) BISHOPS AND OBAMACARE

Catholic Vote ^ | December 3, 2013 | STEPHEN WHITE

[NYer]

While it remains difficult to see how any Catholic could in good conscience oppose making healthcare more widely accessible (on what grounds?), it is increasingly easy to see why Catholics (or anyone else for that matter) would oppose Obamacare. To repeat: Good ends are ill-served by ineffectual and counterproductive means.

Personally, I was embarrassed by Cardinal Dolan's statement: "The Catholic Church could have been one of Obamacare's "biggest cheerleaders" if not for some of its mandates involving contraception." Either the bishops are ignorant of the ramifications of Obamacare on the working class or they are naive, which I strongly doubt.

[NYer]

Follow up, ping!

[DManA]

His Eminence was very supportive of the law’s goals,

Obviously a bad translation.

[markomalley]

Either the bishops are ignorant of the ramifications of Obamacare on the working class or they are naive, which I strongly doubt.

There is a third possibility.

Pius X talked about it quite a bit.

[Salvation]

The Bishops were all against it because it warred on life from the womb to the tomb.

[trisham]

Unfortunately, there remains a communistic element in some religious, who have never given up on Vatican II.

[Jeff Chandler]

Obviously a bad translation.

Heh heh.

[Jeff Chandler]

the bishops are ignorant of the ramifications

Let's face it, they are collectivists who are ignorant of economics.

[Jeff Chandler]

They still don’t get it. The problem is not that (failed) Obamacare is warring on life. The problem is that the government has been given the power to war on life.

The bishops want the government to have the power to strip American citizens of their freedom. Except for them.

[Bigg Red]

Personally, I was embarrassed by Cardinal Dolan’s statement:

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After his remarks about so-called immigration reform, nothing he says surprises me now. He is useless.

[Bigg Red]

There is a third possibility.

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And that is....?

[Alex Murphy]

Personally, I was embarrassed by Cardinal Dolan's statement: "The Catholic Church could have been one of Obamacare's "biggest cheerleaders" if not for some of its mandates involving contraception." Either the bishops are ignorant of the ramifications of Obamacare on the working class or they are naive, which I strongly doubt.

IMO a convincing case can be made that the bishops do not look to the Bible for guidance, but IMO you can't say they're naïve.

Related thread:
Vatican paper: US bishops speak for Catholic Church on health care reform

[Rashputin]

Personally, I'm embarrassed by Cardinal Dolan's existence as a Cardinal.

When he had Barry to dinner and didn't lay a very public smack-down on him over BarryCare and other things it was obvious to me he's functionally identical to guys Rick Warren or Joel Olsteen.

The only real difference is that while Dolan still claims to believe in Christianity the other two have openly developed their own substitutes for Christianity.

The war goes on. If the time ever comes that there are no guys like Dolan left in the ranks of the Bishops and the Cardinals it'll be a sign that they've finished paving Hell.

[Arthur McGowan]

Article lets bishops off the hook.

First of all, they were warned.

Second, no warning should have been necessary. The Democrat party has been pro-abortion for forty-plus years. Obama is the most pro-abortion Democrat in history. What did the bishops think would happen to health care?

They didn’t think. They didn’t want to think.

Dolan couldn’t resist the chance to bellow with laughter with Obama at the Al Smith Dinner.

Cardinal Sean couldn’t resist the opportunity to hob-nob with the Kennedys at a big, splashy, televised canonization for Teddy, at which Cardinal Sean got the chance to slobber on Obama.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Embarrassed? I am dumbfounded at his jaw-dropping stupidity.

[Mrs. Don-o]

A little too subtle for me. What you mean to say about Pius X is ..?

[Mrs. Don-o]

Yeah hey were “all against it” at one minute to midnight, after they’d been “all for it” for a jillion years....

[Mrs. Don-o]

"If the time ever comes that there are no guys like Dolan left in the ranks of the Bishops and the Cardinals it'll be a sign that they've finished paving Hell."

Word.

[PatriotGirl827]

I’m embarrassed and nauseated by this. I first read about this yesterday in an e-mail and kept remembering how some people were actually thinking Cardinal Dolan would make a good Pope!! Lord help us. By the way, I don’t think Cardinal O’Malley is much better either.