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Too Much Catholic Church Music Caters to Old Hippies. Fortunately There's a Simple Solution
The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11/20/13 | James MacMillan

Posted on 11/21/2013 6:06:31 AM PST by marshmallow

I have decided to stop writing congregational music for the Catholic Church. Those who follow these things will be aware that liturgical music can be a war zone in Catholicism. We need not detain ourselves over the reasons and fault-lines in the ongoing debates and struggles, but it is clear to me that there is too much music being created, at the same time as the vast repository of tradition is ignored and wilfully forgotten.

In the last year I have established a new organisation dedicated to reviving the practice of chant in the Church, Musica Sacra Scotland. Gregorian plainsong is the very sound of Catholicism and there have been recent attempts to adapt this music to English translations. Anglicans have had four hundred years of doing this kind of thing, so when the Ordinariate was established a truly great practical application of Catholic principles returned to the Church.

Also, the Americans seem to be ahead of the game and are producing new publications which enable the singing, in the vernacular, of those neglected Proper texts for Introits, Offertories and Communion. The creators of this music are curators of tradition more than "composers", with all the issues of individuality, style and aesthetics attendant on the word. But what these curators are doing is remarkable.

In taking the shape and sound of Catholic chant, they are creating an authentic traditional repertoire for the new liturgical directions in the Church. They are making simple, singable, functional music to suit the nature of ecclesial ritual for a Church which went through various convulsions after the Second Vatican Council.

The British version of this is even more intriguing. The Blessed John Henry Newman Institute of Liturgical Music was set up in the wake of Pope Benedict’s visit to the UK in 2010 by.......

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1 posted on 11/21/2013 6:06:31 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Too much of our entire culture caters to old hippies.


2 posted on 11/21/2013 6:10:46 AM PST by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Cutting edge, crest of the wave ping.

Twenty years ago, whoda thunk it?


3 posted on 11/21/2013 6:11:12 AM PST by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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To: marshmallow
All who call themselves Christian should be singing, "Onward Christian Soldier"

We need to be battle ready ... God knows our hearts and love for him, but we need armor now, not vestments.

4 posted on 11/21/2013 6:12:32 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: marshmallow

**In the last year I have established a new organisation dedicated to reviving the practice of chant in the Church, Musica Sacra Scotland. Gregorian plainsong is the very sound of Catholicism and there have been recent attempts to adapt this music to English translations. **

Thank you God!


5 posted on 11/21/2013 6:13:43 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: popdonnelly

True but take heart, most of them will be dead in 20 years. Earlier if Obamacare really kicks in.


6 posted on 11/21/2013 6:14:26 AM PST by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: popdonnelly

and young millennials...


7 posted on 11/21/2013 6:14:57 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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Those who follow these things will be aware that liturgical music can be a war zone in Catholicism. We need not detain ourselves over the reasons and fault-lines in the ongoing debates and struggles, but it is clear to me that there is too much music being created, at the same time as the vast repository of tradition is ignored and wilfully forgotten.

Ping for later

8 posted on 11/21/2013 6:19:24 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: marshmallow

I’ve only gone to Mass a couple of times in the past few decades, but the de-ritualized version looks and sounds hollow, and the Peter, Paul and Mary wannabe “music” Sucks.


9 posted on 11/21/2013 6:21:00 AM PST by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: knarf

Onward Christian Soldiers, exactly! I loved this guys title - named it exactly right!! aahhhh.


10 posted on 11/21/2013 6:26:39 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: 230FMJ

Find a church where you like the music and get back to regular attendance.

Of course, after confession, receive the Eucharist, which will strengthen you in this endeavor.


11 posted on 11/21/2013 6:29:37 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 230FMJ
the de-ritualized version looks and sounds hollow, and the Peter, Paul and Mary wannabe “music” Sucks.
I came back from VN in '68 and the first Mass I went to was a Folk Mass. Never again.
12 posted on 11/21/2013 6:30:20 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

I have found some churches in the Chicago area that do the Gregorian chants. They are Latin Mass churches. The priest faces the alter and we kneel to get communion on the tongue. No guitars or drums, just the organ.


13 posted on 11/21/2013 6:37:19 AM PST by MondoQueen (ii)
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To: marshmallow

The charismatics (we call them Frannies because they move here to work/go to school at Franciscan U) are responsible for our move toward Guitar Hero from the chior balcony. It’s not happening as frequently, so I hope our new bishop has halted their phase-in of drums, guitars, flutes, and tambourines.


14 posted on 11/21/2013 6:49:54 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: marshmallow
About time...for 50 years those of us in the pews have had our ears assaulted by thumping guitars and rattling tambourines masquerading as sacred music.
15 posted on 11/21/2013 6:51:12 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: marshmallow
Just hire this guy to write all the music.



He is a very skilled guitar player and singer. His songs featured on the show include "Men" and "Lesbian Seagull." Every time he tries to play however, an incident occurs where he is severly injured, but returns good as new in the next episode which is a running gag in the show.
16 posted on 11/21/2013 6:53:52 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: goodwithagun
move toward Guitar Hero from the chior balcony.

We have a friend who dubbed the collection of bangers and twangers as "The Falling Furniture Band."

17 posted on 11/21/2013 6:55:59 AM PST by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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To: bboop; knarf
At last Sunday's service celebrating our church's 125th anniversary, we sang "Onward, Christian Soldiers" as our closing hymn. Arthur Sullivan, who wrote the music, would later team up with William S. Gilbert to produce a number of operas that are still popular today.

Other hymns with a similar theme, which are largely forgotten today, include "Hold the Fort" by P. P. Bliss, inspired by the Battle of Allatoona in 1864, and "The Fight is On, O Christian Soldier" and "The Conflict of the Ages," both written by the great Methodist hymn writer Lelia Morris.

18 posted on 11/21/2013 7:07:54 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: marshmallow

Our whole problem as a Church is that we’re way too concerned with the format, and not nearly enough with the message therein contained IMO.

If you are delivering the Good News in faithfulness to the Gospel, does it really matter if we are doing it with an organ, a guitar, Gregorian Chant, a Homily, a Twitter post, etc.?

I have nothing against Gregorian Chant, but it’s not going to appeal to those masses of young people who are rushing to join Evangelical churches in traditionally Catholic countries.

Nor do we want a dead Church like Europe, where all the beautiful cathedrals and the form survives, but there is no living worship inside.


19 posted on 11/21/2013 7:09:12 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“I have nothing against Gregorian Chant, but it’s not going to appeal to those masses of young people who are rushing to join Evangelical churches in traditionally Catholic countries.”

I beg to differ.

Find a Traditionl Latin Mass group in your area. Go to Mass there. You will find many, many young families. And, if you attend a High Mass, you will likely see a dozen altar boys serving the Mass.

In our Schola Cantorum, we have 4-6 teenagers (both male and female) who sing regularly, while their brothers are before the altar serving Mass.


20 posted on 11/21/2013 7:19:37 AM PST by paterfamilias
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