WHY ARE OUR CATHOLIC LAITY SO ILLITERATE WHEN IT COMES TO THE CATHOLIC FAITH

Had you stuck to what I actually said instead of conjecture about what

Are you 'trying' to control my posts? Not wise to assign catholic bondage to me - the catholic shackles are broken!

The RM is correct

When they say thin skin should be on caucus threads. Listen and learn. Hear and obey. Hmmm - that falls into the 'education' column. Now who is so wise that they can't be taught?

Discussing theology is much more interesting and rewarding than discussing me.

Then what is all your I believe, I believe about BUT YOU! Practice what you preach.

Liberals are into - do as I say Had you stuck to what I actually said - and not as I do "I", "I" . Some are so vain, they think everything is about them.

Even you apparently cannot do that

Apparently, YOU WANT TO and try. We wouldn't be having this back and forth otherwise.

I am only proclaiming the truth which seems to be at odds with you.

God's WORD is TRUTH and it is the Final Authority. IS GOD'S WORD the FINAL Authority for YOU? That will put the light on what you are proclaiming.

you do not have the capacity to provoke me to anger and I thank you for giving me something to forgive.

Oh, so you feel like you are being provoked to anger and my capacity to provoke falls short somehow? Why didn't you come to me then instead of the RM? I can't provoke but God's Word can do amazing things - things man cannot do...even pierce thin skin.

"For the Word of God is ALIVE and ACTIVE. Sharper than any double-edged sword, IT penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart."

I thank you for giving me something to forgive.

I think you have it backwards, YOU REPENT and GOD FORGIVES.

I pray for your healing and repentance.

Stay focused - I'm healed and forgiven! Thank You, JESUS!

The Spirit of GOD lives within Me and God's WORD is written on my heart. I'm blessed!

Does that provoke you? Something to think about as I'm sure you want to get to the bottom of what might provoke you and it will free up the RM to tend to others things they do as their work here is voluntary.

Now enough of taking the thread off topic. And I'll leave you to get to the bottom of what may irritate you because there is no peace in being angry.

I don't think anyone can differentiate your theology from Islam based upon the content of your posts.

Is that meant to provoke or simply to show your ignorance?

Let's see - GOD'S Holy Spirit inspired WORD is the FINAL authority. Is that the belief of Islam/muslims. And 'who' doesn't know that isn't their belief? So is it an education default on your part called ignorance or so angry and have a loss for rational thought?

Because it's a shame feeling a need to expose oneself like that; besides showing a lack of peace.

Seek Jesus The Word, 'man made' teachings have nothing of value but produces ignorance and anger.

13. By virtue of its close relationship to the sacrifice of Golgotha, the Eucharist is a sacrifice in the strict sense, and not only in a general way, as if it were simply a matter of Christ’s offering himself to the faithful as their spiritual food. The gift of his love and obedience to the point of giving his life (cf. Jn 10:17-18) is in the first place a gift to his Father. Certainly it is a gift given for our sake, and indeed that of all humanity (cf. Mt 26:28; Mk 14:24; Lk 22:20; Jn 10:15), yet it is first and foremost a gift to the Father: “a sacrifice that the Father accepted, giving, in return for this total self-giving by his Son, who ‘became obedient unto death’ (Phil 2:8), his own paternal gift, that is to say the grant of new immortal life in the resurrection”.18

That is some strange theology there.

Jesus is Almighty God incarnate (in the flesh) and his one-time sacrifice was to be a propitiation for the sins of the world - past, present and future. How can Jesus' sacrifice be considered a "gift to the Father"? Then to say that the Father gives the gift back to Jesus by granting him a "new immortal life in the resurrection"? I tend to think this was added as a type of "filler" to somehow tie together the concept of the gift of eternal life WE are given by God by His grace and the developed dogma of the sacrament of the Eucharist. This gift is received by faith - by believing in Christ as Savior and Lord. The ordinance of the Lord's Supper is done in REMEMBRANCE of Him - just as Jesus said it was to be done.

The idea of the Eucharistic sacrament being itself propitiatory - to take care of newly committed sins for which payment must be made for the individual after a "proper" confession and suitable penance - is a doctrine that developed over a long period of time for the Roman Catholic Church. It was NOT something the early church fathers held to much less the Apostles and certainly not the Lord Jesus Christ. You'll find no Scripture that teaches that. Christ's sacrifice was once for all and can never be repeated. Those who have received Him by faith ARE redeemed, justified, sanctified, made righteous and saved. The celebration of the Lord's Supper serves to keep that wonderful good news always in our thoughts and hearts so that we remember how much we are loved by God and the fellowship of the Body of Christ.

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