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To: ScubieNuc

Obviously. I love Catholic Theology and think it is brilliant. And as Chesterton (noted for Common Sense) stated so well, in “St. Thomas Aquinas” (and he converted to Catholicism later in life-—that the Summa is the pinnacle of “Common Sense” and Reason. In fact, after the Summa and which was the Protestant “Reformation”-—”Logic and Reason” were thrown out-—which was completely eliminated by Marx and the Postmodernists.

And you ignore —(Luke 22:15) “And he took bread, and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to them, saying, ‘This is my body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.’ And likewise the cup after supper, saying, ‘This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.’ ” (Luke 22:19-20)

Common Sense and Reason is enshrined in the Catholic Canon....if one believes Jesus is the Son of God. This idea that you can be “saved” by “faith alone” and it doesn’t matter what you do in life-—like you can ignore the 10 Commandments, and everything else that Jesus states in the New Testament-—ejects all of the NT, except for two lines ——it is so irrational-—it is really quite insane.

Faith alone?????? and no “works”-—ignore the 10 Commandments and other verses such as Romans 2:13 “”For not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified.”

The idea that there are thousands of “truths” just blows the mind and that any person can “know’ the truth without studying and refecting for years, is absurd. Wisdom takes an infinite amount of work. “Finding Truth”-—getting out of the Matrix takes tons of effort and time and experience, and no one put in more time and effort than the Catholic Church-—except maybe the orthodox Jews.


32 posted on 04/10/2013 4:57:48 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

So do you always create strawmen so you tear them down?

Where did I post “faith alone” or some of that other stuff you are tossing out? The thing is I didn’t and you are assuming a lot. If that makes you feel good or soothes your conscience, that fine. Ultimately your decisions will be judged by God and you have to live with them.


35 posted on 04/10/2013 6:08:03 PM PDT by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: savagesusie

The thing I found interesting in your post is you claim that Catholic theology is full of “common sense and reason.”

Common sense and reason wouldn’t on one hand say something like “the (Catholic) church is NECESSARY for salvation” and then spend paragraphs and books trying to explain how it wouldn’t be necessary. If something is NECESSARY then that’s the end of it. If there are other ways around it, then it obviously isn’t NECESSARY.

I have spent plenty of years trying to make sense of the Catholic web of doctrines and they are neither simple nor do they as a whole make sense, specifically if you believe the Bible to be the Word of God/final authority.

Also if it were clear then I could get a simple “yes” or “no” to a simple question, but instead I get retorts to things I didn’t say and paragraph quotes from non-biblical sources trying to get around what the Catholic catechism states as necessary.


48 posted on 04/11/2013 6:23:20 PM PDT by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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