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11 Reasons the Authority of Christianity Is Centered on St. Peter and Rome
stpeterslist ^ | December 19, 2012

Posted on 01/06/2013 3:56:49 PM PST by NYer

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To: Salvation; CynicalBear

>> “And there were Jews in Rome to whom Peter preached.” <<

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Yes there were jews in rome, but there is absolutely nothing that places Peter in Rome ever.


121 posted on 01/06/2013 7:52:47 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: terycarl; svcw
>> until the so called reformation, the Christians called themselves Catholic<<

The apostles called the assemblies they visited and themselves Catholic? Could you show proof of that from scripture please.

122 posted on 01/06/2013 7:54:01 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: NYer; newgeezer

My son just asked a Catholic girl to marry him and another son of mine is dating a Catholic girl. I’m sure glad that said Catholic girls no nothing of the Pope or Mary heresies of the RCC. I guess they are Catholic in name only. I hope it doesn’t become an issue later.


123 posted on 01/06/2013 7:54:13 PM PST by DungeonMaster (Not voting against multiple ObamaPhoneWoman votes anymore.)
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To: Ann Archy

Yes but right after Jesus commends Peter for the revelatory nature of his answer as to who Jesus was, Christ rebukes Peter, addressing him as Satan.

“Get thee behind me, Satan”!

So much for the infallibility Pope thing right there.

Jesus is the Mediator, our only Intercessor between mankind and the Father. Even Jesus’ mom knew she was a sinner in need of a savior, and prayed accordingly; she was there at Pentecost and, along with Peter, understood what it all meant as prophesied by the prophet Joel.

2:28“And afterward,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your old men will dream dreams,
your young men will see visions.
29Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days.

Hooray! The Holy Spirit has come and all that ritual of the Old Covenant is done.


124 posted on 01/06/2013 7:54:59 PM PST by Sontagged (Faith without works is dead. This also means incessant prayer without attendant works is dead.)
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To: editor-surveyor
The main article substantiates the fact that Peter preached and died in Rome.

**St. Peter’s residence and death in Rome are established beyond contention as historical facts by a series of distinct testimonies extending from the end of the first to the end of the second centuries, and issuing from several lands**

125 posted on 01/06/2013 7:55:58 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CynicalBear
So since the Catholic Church so meticulously assembled the scripture could you show us where in scripture they put the teaching of the assumption of Mary?

many things happened in the church as time went by. If you believe 'sola scriptura" then you can't handle the assumption. Christ protects the church from error in matters of faith and morals. "What you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven". The members of the early church taught that Mary had been assumed, and had every reason to believe that it happened. I am certain that if you research on Google or wherever else, you will be able to find the documentation that the church used in reaching their conclusion. The church also teaches the immaculate conception, meaning that Mary was born without original sin....another one for you to ponder.

126 posted on 01/06/2013 7:56:20 PM PST by terycarl
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To: svcw; editor-surveyor

God said He hated all the feast days that He didn’t institute. It’s impossible to get around that.


127 posted on 01/06/2013 7:56:48 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: metmom; NYer; Gamecock; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww

The Babylon Peter referenced had to be Jerusalem, which is also revealed as “The Great City” in Revelation 11.

“And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.”

Peter never entered Rome.


128 posted on 01/06/2013 8:03:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: terycarl

I believe that Christian was first used in Acts. I do not remember ever seeing Catholic being used in the Bible. I do think I read it was used in the first century. My memory is not what it used to be.


129 posted on 01/06/2013 8:04:46 PM PST by MamaB
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To: Salvation; editor-surveyor
Did you not read my post or the article or the site listed? Here is the quote from the article and site.

“the details and success of his labours, and the chronology of his arrival and death, all these questions are uncertain, and can be solved only on hypotheses more or less well-founded.<

Now you still post that as if it’s established fact?

130 posted on 01/06/2013 8:05:04 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

You’ll have to show me some New Testament versus that say that, I am not familiar with them at all.


131 posted on 01/06/2013 8:07:01 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: metmom

>> “There is no support from the original Greek...” <<

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One thing that is absolutely certain at this point is that the original language of the gospels was Hebrew, not Greek.

There are passages in the Greek translations that were copied verbatum, rather than translating them logically for meaning, proving that it was specifically Hebrew from which the Greek gospels were copied. Hebrew puns and colloquy could not otherwise have found their way into the Greek copies. Had a Jewish author written them in Greek, they would certainly not have made such a stupid mistake.


132 posted on 01/06/2013 8:12:10 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CynicalBear; svcw; editor-surveyor
God said He hated all the feast days that He didn’t institute. It’s impossible to get around that.

While that is true, I have to agree with svcw, that salvation is through Christ alone and not dependent on works.

If it depends on anything but Christ, that is what being trusted for salvation.

Is celebrating Christmas and Easter a sin? I suppose then we're left with Romans 14, which did, BTW, deal with eating of meat sacrificed to temple idols.

I look at the bright side. At least they're still a thorn in the flesh of the atheists. It's still some sort of testimony of the birth and death of Christ that cannot be ignored in this country.

133 posted on 01/06/2013 8:20:36 PM PST by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: terycarl
>> If you believe 'sola scriptura" then you can't handle the assumption.<<

You don’t say. You mean that was added by man later? Go figure.

>> The members of the early church taught that Mary had been assumed,<<

Early church you say! So the Catholic Church claims the apostles knew of the assumption of Mary and said nothing of it? No, the “early church” did not teach that. The “early church” were the apostles and the people they brought to Christ.

>> The church also teaches the immaculate conception, meaning that Mary was born without original sin....another one for you to ponder.<<

I don’t need to ponder long at all. Scripture says the Christ was the only sinless human who ever lived.

2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

1 King 8:46 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near;

If you want to believe the error of the Catholic Church but I’ll stay with scripture and the Holy Spirit as a guide.

134 posted on 01/06/2013 8:21:12 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: editor-surveyor

That’s interesting. I’ve never heard that before.

I could see three of the gospels being written in Hebrew originally, but Luke wasn’t a Jew, was he?


135 posted on 01/06/2013 8:23:41 PM PST by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: editor-surveyor

The New Testament wasn’t written in Hebrew?

Many people assume that the New Testament was written in Hebrew as well, but by the time the gospels were being written, many Jews didn’t even speak Hebrew anymore. Rome had conquered Greece, and the influence of Greek culture had saturated the empire. What’s interesting about Biblical Greek is that it didn’t use a high-class or complicated style; it was written in koine (common Greek), a language that could be understood by almost anyone, educated or not.


136 posted on 01/06/2013 8:25:16 PM PST by Rodm
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To: svcw

>> “Celebrating Easter as a representation of the Crucifixion and Resurrection of the Living Christ does not deny someone the Gift of Salvation.” <<

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Celebrating Easter is worshipping another God. It is also disregarding the commanded observance of Passover. YHVH tells us what to celebrate, and exactly when to do it. Easter and christmas deliberately violate both.

Deliberate sins require repentance.


137 posted on 01/06/2013 8:25:23 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: terycarl
The Catholics, who perfected torture, murdered excruciatingly painfully countless Christians who rejected their authority, but believed in Christ. They were the ruling class, but as often with the ruling class, they were the most wicked of all. A large part of the history of the popes and the Catholic Church is extremely bloody, corrupt and evil. The Catholic Church was, politically speaking, nearly absolutely powerful, and that power, and the unquenchable thirst for it, and for the accumulation of vast amounts of wealth corrupted it mightily. Read about the history of many of the popes and you will be astounded at how wicked they were.

Though the powerful Catholic Church tried to wipe out all true Christians, God always preserved a remnant of true believers for Himself.

138 posted on 01/06/2013 8:26:37 PM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: svcw
Paul was still keeping the old feasts but no where is mentioned of any new.

Acts 18:21 But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if God will. And he sailed from Ephesus.

Jesus kept all of the old feast days commanded by God and taught the apostles to do the same. Then He sent them into the world with this command.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

The only feast day that really remains after Christ’s death and resurrection is Passover. No other feast days were instituted. God’s statement of man made feast days still stand. We could go into the pagan origin of many of the current “feast days” but you could easily do a search of the pagan roots of each of them.

139 posted on 01/06/2013 8:26:49 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: metmom

Met, my Mom used to tell me that it pickled her pink that people celebrated Christ every time they wrote the date on a letter....
She said (and I realize this was her opinion) that the world would celebrate Christ even though they may not even know they were.
Christ will not be denied.
In Christ....LU


140 posted on 01/06/2013 8:28:25 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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