Billy Graham and politics: Woe to us (Alas, this is not the Billy Graham my Grandma Knew)

Associated Baptist Press ^ | 10/20/2012 | Mark Wingfield

[RaceBannon]

If you are going to go so slanderously far as to accuse Billy Graham of "compromising the scripture", then please post a link or quote to material on his site that does so.

There have been numerous posts pointing you to just that

[Tamzee]

The nasty accusation was of Graham compromising scripture by changing his site. And yet I am still waiting for a link to any material on his site that does so.

If the links to unBiblical material on his website are so “numerous”, then please provide same.

[RaceBannon]

oh, I misunderstood your question, because I was posting links that explained his history of apostasy and his recorded statements of heresy with witnesses of his apostasy

you asked a different question, I will work on that.

[robowombat]

Yes, you are correct. Unfortunately the men who steered the SBC on its straight path of orthodoxy and marginalized the influence of the Louisville Theological Seminary versus New Orleans and Dallas have been mostly called to their reward or are in retirement. The weasels and termites have worked relentlessly to infiltrated and slowly try to twist the meaning of being a Southern baptist to being a ‘modern baptist’. The recent partial name change of the convention is just the most blatant aspect. The current chair of the convention is a mushy theological liberal who was elected because, like our President, of his skin color. this fellow isn't a Jeremiah Wright sort of hater but he has no real internal fortitude and lets the race card be played on him. Fortunately Baptist churches are self governing entities so the rot at the top in nashville has little real impact other than through the WMU types who are being constantly proselytized about ‘tolerance’ and ‘openness’. This is part of a general attempt by clerico=-neo-marxists to undermine evangelicalism by changing the way many women members ‘see the world’. Look to further to the last president Bush to see the effect of having a culturally mainstream but religiously liberal and ‘progressive’ wife on the husband's judgments. This is tough stuff. Men who are active evangelical Christians need to talk regularly with their wives about how their wives see questions of public policy or even foreign policy. These men need to have some strong arguments against the subtle poison the librats are constantly trying to inject into the evangelical community. Just saying ‘Support DOMA because I say so.’ will no longer cut it.

[ansel12]

That is right, you did not once mention anything about tithes and neither does any other member of any church that collects tithes,

All churches ACCEPT tithes and donations, but only Mormonism makes it MANDATORY and investigates you for compliance and issues you an ID card for it, and refuses you entrance to the Temple if you don't comply, and who's theology makes you second class, or even third class in the after life.

Not paying at least the required 10% means that you cannot become a God, in Mormonism.

[ravenwolf]

All churches ACCEPT tithes and donations, but only Mormonism makes it MANDATORY and investigates you for compliance and issues you an ID card for it, and refuses you entrance to the Temple if you don’t comply, and who’s theology makes you second class, or even third class in the after life.

Not paying at least the required 10% means that you cannot become a God, in Mormonism.

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There are actually some churches that will not except tithes but only alms.

I also see your point of view, if i decided to join a tithe collecting church i suppose i would pick the one that i thought was the lesser evil which would not be the Mormon church.

That also goes with picking a president, i would pick Romney over Obama even if i thought Romney was some what evil, but i have known many Mormons who i thought were great people.

[ravenwolf]

All churches ACCEPT tithes and donations, but only Mormonism makes it MANDATORY and investigates you for compliance and issues you an ID card for it, and refuses you entrance to the Temple if you don’t comply, and who’s theology makes you second class, or even third class in the after life.

Not paying at least the required 10% means that you cannot become a God, in Mormonism.

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There are actually some churches that will not except tithes but only alms.

I also see your point of view, if i decided to join a tithe collecting church i suppose i would pick the one that i thought was the lesser evil which would not be the Mormon church.

That also goes with picking a president, i would pick Romney over Obama even if i thought Romney was some what evil, but i have known many Mormons who i thought were great people.

[ansel12]

My point is that Mormonism is the only one that requires you to tithe, questions you on it, can require proof of it, issues you an ID verifying it, and denies you part of the afterlife if you do not pay, and denies you entrance into the Temple for failure to pay.

That is nice that you have met nice Mormons, my Mormon friends are nice also.

Mitt expects to become a God as our God is, and paying at least 10% of his income is required for that to happen.

[ravenwolf]

My point is that Mormonism is the only one that requires you to tithe, questions you on it,

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Yes, i can see your point very well and i admit that i did not know about it to that extent even though i have lived around Mormons all of my life and been to their Church a few times.

If i were voting for a religious leader to head me in the right direction in my spiritual life i would not vote for Romney.

However since religion is nothing more than politics with a halo around it i can not see that choosing a Mormon over a socialist would be anything but good.

We are not voting for a religious leader but for some one who will honor the constitution of the united states, and the fact that Romney honors his church even though we believe it to be a cult is a good sign that he is also apt to honor the nation that he heads.

[ansel12]

All churches ACCEPT tithes and donations, but only Mormonism makes it MANDATORY and investigates you for compliance and issues you an ID card for it, and refuses you entrance to the Temple if you don’t comply, and who’s theology makes you second class, or even third class in the after life.

Not paying at least the required 10% means that you cannot become a God, in Mormonism.

I’m glad that I could clear up just one of your misconceptions about Bishop Romney, a member of Mormon Royalty since his family first came to these shores to serve the cult 170 years ago, and the recipient of his cult leaders permission to run for president, permission that he sought in 2005, before he would undertake this mission.

[ravenwolf]

I’m glad that I could clear up just one of your misconceptions about Bishop Romney, a member of Mormon Royalty since his family first came to these shores to serve the cult 170 years ago, and the recipient of his cult leaders permission to run for president, permission that he sought in 2005, before he would undertake this mission.

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I only told you that i did not know some of the things you told me, i do not have any misconceptions concerning religion.