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1 posted on 08/15/2012 7:33:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Hmmm, never thought of it that way.

Guess Old Man Kennedy’’s boinking of every female within range made him a bad Catholic.

Guess JFK’s boinking of every female within range made him a bad Catholic.

Guess dead Ted’s boinking of everything within range made him a bad Catholic.

Guess Nancy Bimbosi’s complete inability have any job until after she boinked a millionaire makes her a bad Catholic.

The only problem I see right now is that the Catholic Church should have a lot more excommunicating and a lot less “social justics” work.


2 posted on 08/15/2012 7:36:00 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind

How is Ryan a “dissenting” Catholic? The article seemed to be all about Buckley (who I liked) but I didn’t seen how Ryan was dissenting.


4 posted on 08/15/2012 7:50:36 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: SeekAndFind; FatherofFive; Cronos; wagglebee; dsc; Deo volente; MarkBsnr; Mad Dawg; ...

The National Cathylyc Fishwrap has the audacity to criticize Ryan’s fidelity? This rag, condemned as heretical by their local Bishop over 40 years ago ( http://greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00Cofv) has the nerve to say that about anybody? What a joke!
The fact is that unlike the Fishwrap’s editors, Mr. Ryan understands that subsidiarity is an essential part of Catholic Social Teaching and that , per Catholic Social Teaching, “ the common good “ does not equal communism.

Unlike the CINOs in the legislative and executive branches, Ryan actually understands and applies Catholic teaching in his work.


5 posted on 08/15/2012 7:53:31 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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"Michael Sean Winters........."

I stopped right there.

The dissenter is Winters. His understanding of Catholic "social teaching" is selective, skewed and improvised. He writes for the National Catholic Reporter and is a card-carrying "spirit (small 's') of Vatican II" advocate.

He whines about anything and everything which the Pope and bishops are currently doing to strengthen the Church's connection with Tradition and weed out heresy.

6 posted on 08/15/2012 7:57:53 AM PDT by marshmallow (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The ignorance is pretty telling. Ryan is NO dissenter from Catholic social teaching. He knows it well, understands how several have been wrong about its interpretation...particularly here in the United States..AND demonstrates how his policies line up well with authentic Catholic teaching.

Rep. Ryan: ‘We Have Pursued Solidarity but Abused Subsidiarity’

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/rep.-ryan-we-have-pursued-solidarity-but-abused-subsidiarity

Catholic Social Teaching and the Ryan Budget by Thomas Berg
(from the Witherspoon Institute)

http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2012/05/5388

Paul Ryan and Catholic Social Teaching (Roundup) The American Catholic April 29, 2012.
http://the-american-catholic.com/2012/04/29/paul-ryan-and-catholic-social-teaching-roundup

The Bishops Were Wrong On The Ryan Budget - Pat Archbold (National Catholic Register) challenges the popular assumption that “The Bishops collectively condemned the Ryan Budget.”
http://www.ncregister.com/blog/pat-archbold/the-bishops-were-wrong-on-the-ryan-budget

ALSO, the author of the article might want to consult the Church’s New Compendium of Social Teaching as well as Pope Benedict’s thoughts on states assuming far too much power and/or using power incorrectly.


7 posted on 08/15/2012 8:03:45 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. - Modified Descartes)
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To: SeekAndFind

Catholic “social teaching” is all about the marriage of church and state, where the church rules and overrules political debate... all ya have to do is look at the the past to see what the future holds. Just listen to Socialist Democratic Catholics, they want the state to oversee Catholic “compassion” for the less fortunate... and then they scream bloody murder when the state passes a law mandating they provide contraceptives... Hey you Catholics, if you don’t want the devil dictating over you, stop sleeping with him.


8 posted on 08/15/2012 8:06:07 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Considering the people pushing this propaganda line support Abortion on Demand politicians like Obama and Biden, just who is the “Bad Catholic” is exactly backwards.

Seems Liberal Catholics missed the point in Christ’s teaching that charity is supposed to be a personal, not government imposed, duty.


9 posted on 08/15/2012 8:15:50 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Michael Sean Winters, blogging for the National Catholic Reporter"

You can stop after reading that bit. The National Catholic Reporter (not to be confused with the Register) is anything but Catholic.


15 posted on 08/15/2012 8:36:58 AM PDT by Graing ("The power of wind, fire... all that kind of thing")
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To: SeekAndFind

Is wealth distribution by secular bureaucratic agencies that retrieves resources through threat of jail or bodily harm a Catholic social teaching?

“the poor you will always have with you...” especially if you perpetuate a racket that promotes the poor to keep being poor because some evil people need votes to live like nobles.


17 posted on 08/15/2012 8:42:13 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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Does the Catholic Church actually teach that the government should tax people under threat of force to "help" others instead of teaching that we as individuals are called to help those in need?

Some individual (liberal) priests/bishops might, but the church as a whole? Not that I'm aware of.

19 posted on 08/15/2012 9:09:13 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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“Jesuits Rebuke Ryan”

I stopped reading right there! What is it about the Jesuits? They seem to be more liberal than the liberals.


20 posted on 08/15/2012 9:27:06 AM PDT by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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Ryan interprets social justiced the correct way. Read this link.

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Holiness (Paul Ryan)

21 posted on 08/15/2012 9:59:32 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Michael Sean Winters, blogging for the National Catholic Reporter, has written a lengthy piece asserting that Paul Ryan’s “dissent” from “Catholic Social Teaching” makes him a not very good Catholic and a “dangerous” choice for vice president.


Has Michael Sean Winters made any comment about Nancy Pelosi’s pro-abortion policy?


23 posted on 08/15/2012 10:02:54 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: SeekAndFind; mickie; flaglady47; magnum force 1; oswegodeee; hoosiermama; Eden Scout; Chigirl 26
I just knew that the Barack O'Goebbel's Ministery of Propaganda would go after Ryan's Catholicism....I just KNEW it!

If that doesn't work, the leftists will dig up some MacDonald's hamburger flipper that will claim he sexually harrassed her in the freezer when he worked there.

I just KNOW it!

Leni

24 posted on 08/15/2012 10:12:08 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: SeekAndFind
Winters is clueless on purpose.

Ryan is just fine with his adherence to Catholicism.

28 posted on 08/15/2012 10:47:00 AM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He does not disagree with Catholic social thought. He rejects Catholic wing nut economic and political communist thought. Most Catholics do as does the Bible.


29 posted on 08/15/2012 10:47:39 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, and the rest of the social justice/pro death Catholics have never been called out by name for their stances.

The USCCB called out Ryan for his budget.

Catholics who were not going to vote for Obama because of the HHS mandate are now being pushed out of voting for Romney because of Ryan. Heard it at my wife's parish over the weekend, and from family members.

I find it very interesting that the Bishops tremble in fear of offending Pelosi, but slam Ryan. To may Catholic friends, you need to start asking some very serious questions about just what your bishops believe.

Just like many Evangelicals have sold their soul to the GOP, many Catholics have sold their soul to the DNC.

36 posted on 08/15/2012 3:34:16 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Since the topic of Socialist Democratic “Catholics” has been raised, it seems appropriate to recall what Pope Pius XI wrote: “If Socialism, like all errors, contains some truth (which, moreover, the Supreme Pontiffs have never denied), it is based nevertheless on a theory of human society peculiar to itself and irreconcilable with true Christianity. Religious socialism, Christian socialism, are contradictory terms; no one can be at the same time a good Catholic and a true socialist.” (Encyclical QUADRAGESIMO ANNO)


37 posted on 08/15/2012 3:54:33 PM PDT by DumbestOx ("Where is everybody?" - Enrico Fermi, 1950)
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Winters is the author of Left At the Altar: How Democrats Lost The Catholics And How Catholics Can Save The Democrats.

He has often written from the perspective of progressive Christianity, opposing various conservative elements within the Catholic Church on topics such as the politics of abortion or the ordination of gay priests.

His biography of the Rev. Jerry Falwell, God’s Right Hand: How Jerry Falwell Made God a Republican and Baptized the American Right was published by Harper One in January 2012 to critical acclaim.


39 posted on 08/15/2012 6:11:42 PM PDT by kcvl
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