Posted on 07/28/2012 12:44:08 PM PDT by Salvation
Appreciate your open mindedness.
Enjoy your weekend.
You wrote:
“Are you so clueless you can’t even recognize a scenarios and apply it? Must be because you proved it!”
You seem to be babbling nonsensically.
“It doesn’t take much UNTRUTHS for a born again believer to KNOW IT and you, obviously, know NOTHING about that.”
No, I think I know more truths than you, and am better able to discern truth than you. You prove that in post after post.
“This is what happens when two of opposing spirits try to discuss anything.”
Except that you do not discuss really. You show up to a discussion with nothing to offer.
“So long and take your angst out on the CC hierarchy and their man made teachings - I AM SO NOT INTERESTED in your rant, pleas and misery.”
In other words, you can’t dispute what I wrote. Yeah, I thought as much.
Oh yes I can tell but will not - like I said NO PEARLS! Live with it!! HEAR and OBEY!
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Don't be - be grounded in TRUTH and it's possible for you, also.
Until then, spend your time taking garbage in and then try to defend it. No skin off my nose! We all are given the same amount of time and we CHOOSE what we do with it. I choose wisely!
Show me where I made it personal to Natural Law as he/we been told time and time again, if one is thin skinned the RF if not the place for them.
Thanks.
Making the thread "about" individual Freepers, e.g. "YOUR attempt" is also a form of "making it personal." I intervene when the thread is off-track to prevent flame wars and salvage the discussion for posters/lurkers interested in the issues.
Concerning thin-skin, "open" Religion Forum threads are often contentious and thin-skinned posters should IGNORE them altogether and instead post to RF threads labeled "prayer" "devotional" "caucus" or "ecumenical."
Thank you!
You’re welcome.
I asked you because time and time again - when things aren't going a way to his liking, a 'do not make it personal' usually follows. It's common knowledge and I'm sure the record of, at least, the past five years will back it up. That said, I am explaining my reason for asking and not making this thread about him.
Thanks. I've been off of here but keep getting pinged back and with respect for them, I answer them.
Are you saying that you are on my ping list? That’s the only ping that went out here.
The next time you want to discuss debate tactics, create a thread for that purpose rather than posting on a thread discussing theological issues. But even then, make it about the tactics and not individual Freepers.
Actually it was about tactics and no one individually. Thank you.
NO, I did not say that - you are not the only poster on this thread. Let’s not put words in my mouth but drop it - you are making this thread about me.
a quote from the book, The Glories of Divine Grace by
Father Matthias Scheeben:
“The more we belong to God, the more
He is ours: the more we live in Him and for Him, the more He lives
in us and for us. Can we call the branch lost when it is grafted
to a nobler tree and drinks the same life from the same root,
whereas, if separated from the tree and left to itself, it would
wither or, as a wilding, would have but a stunted existence? On
the contrary, it can now boast not only of the life which it draws
from the tree, but also of the life and perfection which trunk and
roots possess for themselves. So may we too, united to God BY
GRACE, not only derive for our portion a ray of the divine glory,
not only channel off into our soul a small stream of the divine
life, but we may regard the divine Sun itself, the fountain of
divine life, as our very own; we can rejoice in the personal
perfections of God as if they were fully ours.
Being thus divinized in a twofold manner, we likewise enjoy a
twofold participation in divine beatitude: first, by beholding the
beauty and glory of God as He Himself sees and enjoys it, and
secondly, by possessing this same divine beauty and glory and
calling it our own, through grace, thus imitating God who
possesses it by nature.”
I have had a chance to reflect and pray on this incident and how the admonition applies to me specifically and I have to admit I am still confused and perplexed. I ask for clarification.
Catholics are instructed to not take criticism, even unfair and untrue criticism, of the Church and its doctrines, history and clergy personally on the presumption that there is nothing personal in a collectively held belief. On the other hand, Catholics are instructed to exercise far more restraint when criticizing beliefs that are clearly the product of an individual poster.
Posts the equivalent of "Catholicism is satanic" or "Catholics hate God" are so contemptuous and preposterous that they do not warrant a direct response. They are none the less apparently considered valid and acceptable posts since they are allowed to stand and do not draw a warning or rebuke from the moderators. Since they are apparently acceptable, they do beg that the thought process, motivations and sometimes even the sanity behind them be questioned. Remember, in most cases the offensive poster will not provide any denominational information beyond "not Catholic".
So my question is this; why is the statement "Catholicism is satanic and insane" acceptable but a statement to the effect that "your post is satanic and insane" unacceptable since the origin of the idea is clearly that of the poster?
Peace be with you
"...ISM is Satanic or insane" is not speaking of any Freeper personally and is therefore not "making it personal."
"Your post is Satanic or insane" is not speaking of you, personally, but rather the statement you made. It is not "making it personal" as mind reading or attributing motive - but if it causes the thread to be redirected into a discussion "about" you instead of the issues, it would be "making it personal" nonetheless.
Several posters end up in trouble by arguing against the messenger instead of the message. Ad hominems cause the thread to be redirected away from the issues, disrupting the thread for everyone else - and often result in flame wars. That is why I intervene.
The key to avoiding trouble is to discuss the issue instead of the poster.
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