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To: fabian
Yes I do know someone...more than one, people that do not sin. It is actually easy, once you are really born again. The very nature of being born again is to no longer have the compulsion to sin. Anything short of that is diminishing the very real power of the holy spirit and is a mistake!

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. - 1John1:7-8 KJV

12 posted on 07/12/2012 11:43:44 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: tx_eggman

What John means is obviously ALL have sinned and are in need of being saved. Sin is in us, but once the born agian experience happens, that is it! You guys use translation of certain scripture to justify sinning and shame on you!
Can you imagine the apostles still sinning after they were filled with the spirit? Of course not!


13 posted on 07/12/2012 11:53:30 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: tx_eggman; fabian
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. - 1 John1:7-8 KJV

And in the very next chapter it would appear that the Apostle John directly contradicts himself if we are to take your understanding of the verses you posted:

1 John 2:1-11

1. My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2. And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

3. And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

4. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

6. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

7. Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

8. Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.

9. He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

10. He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

11. But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
20 posted on 07/12/2012 12:24:32 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: tx_eggman; fabian
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. - 1John1:7-8 KJV

Furthermore, the Apostle Paul accurately describes the condition of a man still living in his sins but struggling with them in Romans Chapter 7, however, Romans Chapter 8 describes the condition of a man who has repented and believed the gospel unto salvation. Chapter 8 of Romans clearly states that a man who has received God's spirit no longer walks after the flesh(sin).

Romans 8:1-16

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
21 posted on 07/12/2012 12:37:43 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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