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Seven Differences Between Mormonism and Christianity
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Posted on 05/27/2012 9:35:33 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

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To: Williams
Mormons are decent well behaved God fearing people.

That should be: Mormons are decent well behaved God(s) fearing people.


http://saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/mormonism/the-great-pre-earth-council-of-mormon-gods

41 posted on 05/27/2012 11:40:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Williams
I’m Roman Catholic.

And LOTYs of folks just like you have been lured away from RCC into the yawning maw of MORMONism.

42 posted on 05/27/2012 11:42:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
See Post #33

From the Religion Moderator:

This thread is posted in the Religion Forum. The main guideline here is to "discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal." Attributing motives to other Freepers and reading their minds are forms of "making it personal."

43 posted on 05/27/2012 11:46:08 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The inability or unwillingness to reality test beliefs is okay for my plumber but not for POTUS.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Ok genius. Now tell us how “liberation theology” qualifies as Christian.


44 posted on 05/27/2012 11:47:59 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Lazamataz

Henri is hilarious, and not unlike our own cat. But as Joe Smith was into the Egyptians and the Egyptians were into cats, you may actually be on to something there.

Except he did have a slightly ironic problem translating a certain Egyptian hieroglyph, given Mormon theology’s apparent preoccupation with supernatural procreativity:

http:.//vintage.aomin.org/Mintract.html


45 posted on 05/27/2012 11:48:16 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Williams
I’m Roman Catholic. Could there be anything more false than religions by their very name “protesting” against the one true apostolic Church of God? Was Martin Luther a delusional fanatic, as well as a virulent anti-semite?

Oh gag.......

46 posted on 05/27/2012 11:51:03 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: greyfoxx39

An RCC caucus thread should be the standard.


47 posted on 05/27/2012 11:55:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: nwrep
I doubt the average Mormon housewife is going to even know these doctrines, let alone act on them.

Broad is the way...

Later...

"But Pete!!

I THOUGHT I was on the right road!

My leaders TOLD me I was!!

THIS IS UNFAIR!!!"

48 posted on 05/27/2012 11:58:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: WHBates
I’ve noticed over the past few months, that there is a lot of Mormon bashing on FR. I’m curious as to the motive.

Some Christians FINALLY got tired of all of the LIES that MORMONism spouts and they decided to follow what the BIBLE has clearly taught for centuries:


 
Romans 15:4
 For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.
 
 
Romans 16:17
   I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
 
 
1 Corinthians 4:17
   For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.
 
 
1 Corinthians 11:2
 2.  I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.
 
 
Ephesians 4:14-15
 14.  Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
 15.  Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.
 
 
2 Thessalonians 2:15
   So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings  we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
 
 
2 Thessalonians 3:6
  In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching  you received from us.
 
 
1 Timothy 1:3-4
 3.  As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
 4.  nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.
 
 
1 Timothy 1:7
  They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.
 
 
1 Timothy 2:7
   And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.
 
 
1 Timothy 4:1-2
 1.  The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
 2.  Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
 
 
1 Timothy 4:6
   If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.
 
 
1 Timothy 4:11
  Command and teach these things.
 
 
1 Timothy 6:3-5
 3.  If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
 4.  he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 
 5.  and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
 
 
2 Timothy 1:13
  What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.
 
 
 2 Timothy 2:15-17
 15.  Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
 16.  Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.
 17.  Their teaching will spread like gangrene.
 
 
2 Timothy 3:16-17
 16.  All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 17.  so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
 
 
 2 Timothy 4:3-4
  3.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
  4.  They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
 
 
Titus 1:11
   They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.
 
 
Titus 2:1
  You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.
 
 
Titus 2:15
  These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.
 
 
 Hebrews 13:9
 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.
 
 
 2 Peter 2:1-3
 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 
 
2 John 1:10
  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.



49 posted on 05/27/2012 12:01:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: WHBates
I’ve noticed over the past few months, that there is a lot of Mormon bashing on FR. I’m curious as to the motive.

Any place that a MORMON has the nerve to start spouting any of their HERESY will turn in to a BASH.

Bold
ANTIs
Spotlighting
Heresy

50 posted on 05/27/2012 12:01:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: mamelukesabre

A. I’m not a genius. I know. I’ve been tested. I am not genius-positive.

B. Even if I were, I wouldn’t try to defend liberation theology (aka racial Marxism) as Christian either. Both are vehicles for making man into a god. The only real difference is the fool efficiency.

C. What’s your point? Same old rehash of I shouldn’t vote my conscience because it will get the wrong guy elected? That’s an old and moldy excuse for disobeying God. Nice try. No sale. God still runs this show. That idea is what frees me to vote my conscience. You fear losing freedom, but there can be no freedom if you make your conscience a slave to fear and doubt. You will always be under the thumb of whoever can manufacture the best crisis. Be free. Have faith in God, then do what’s right. That’s real “liberation theology.”


52 posted on 05/27/2012 12:08:43 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: greyfoxx39
Yes, the "average mormon housewife" may not fully understand the doctrine, or be aware of Joseph Smith's many wives or other history but she will indeed be following the rules and regulations if she hopes to have her family with her in "eternity".

Yes; the amh will be going along with the program.

And she will likely be married to a RM who is well versed in following rules:

The Rules

  1. Learn and obey all missionary rules.
  2. Keep your thoughts, words, and actions in harmony with the gospel message.
  3. Read only books, magazines, and other material authorized by the Church.
  4. Don't debate or argue.
  5. Center your mind on your mission.
  6. Dress conservatively. Elders: white shirts, conservative ties, and business suits. Sisters: conservative colors and skirts that cover your knees. No floor-length skirts or dresses.
  7. Cut your hair regularly.
  8. Keep your hair clean and neatly combed at all times in the approved style.
  9. Be neat and clean.
  10. Bathe frequently.
  11. Use deodorant.
  12. Polish your shoes.
  13. Iron your shirt and business suit.
  14. Arise at 6:30 A.M.
  15. Study for 2 hours every morning.
  16. Proselytize for 10 hours between 9:30 A.M. and 9:30 P.M.
  17. Turn off your lights at 10:30 P.M.
  18. Exercise regularly.
  19. Write in your journal regularly.
  20. Follow the "Missionary Gospel Study Program" (31157) for your personal study.
  21. Regularly study the Missionary Guide and the Discussions.
  22. Attend Sunday priesthood or Relief Society meetings, Sunday School, and sacrament meeting.
  23. Attend the general session of Stake Conference.
  24. Attend general conference broadcasts if available.
  25. Avoid all other church meetings unless you have a special assignment or are brining an investigator.
  26. Proselytize as much as possible on weekends and holidays because this is when you'll find people home.
  27. End your preparation day at 6:00 P.M. and proselytize from 6:00 P.M. to 9:30 P.M.
  28. Wear your missionary uniform in public on preparation day while not engaged in recreational activities.
  29. Arise at 6:30 on preparation day and study for 2 hours from the approved books.
  30. Take care of your physical preparation for the week on preparation day: wash your clothes, clean your apartment, wash your car, get your haircut, and shop for groceries.
  31. Write to your parents every week on preparation day.
  32. Write less frequently to your siblings, friends, and acquaintances.
  33. Don't communicate with any friends or acquaintances that are within or close to your mission boundaries, except as a part of official mission business.
  34. Plan safe, wholesome, and uplifting activities for preparation day.
  35. Stay with your companion during all activities.
  36. Do not go on road trips.
  37. Do not leave your assigned area without permission
  38. Do not watch television.
  39. Do not view unauthorized videocassettes.
  40. Do not listen to the radio.
  41. Do not listen to unauthorized audiocassettes or CD’s.
  42. Do not participate in musical groups.
  43. Do not participate in athletic teams.
  44. Do not sponsor athletic teams.
  45. Do not engage in contact sports.
  46. Do not engage in water sports.
  47. Do not engage in winter sports.
  48. Do not engage in motorcycling.
  49. Do not engage in horseback riding.
  50. Do not engage in mountain climbing.
  51. Do not embark on a private boat.
  52. Do not embark in a private airplane.
  53. Do not handle firearms.
  54. Do not handle explosives.
  55. Do not swim.
  56. Do not play full court basketball.
  57. Do not play basketball in leagues.
  58. Do not play basketball in tournaments.
  59. You may play half-court basketball.
  60. Never be alone.
  61. Seek advice from your mission president if your companion is "having difficulties".
  62. Be loyal to your companion.
  63. Ask your mission president for help if your companion doesn’t obey the rules.
  64. Pray with your companion every day.
  65. Study with your companion every day.
  66. Plan your work with your companion every day.
  67. Take time at least once a week for companionship inventory.
  68. Seek to be one in spirit and purpose and help each other succeed.
  69. Always address your companion as Elder or Sister.
  70. Sleep in the same bedroom as your companion.
  71. Do not sleep in the same bed as your companion.
  72. Do not arise before your companion.
  73. Do not retire after your companion. (apparently, being together is more important than getting the correct amount of sleep that your unique body requires.)
  74. Frequently study with your companion the Missionary Guide section on companions.
  75. Never be alone with anyone of the opposite sex.
  76. Never associate inappropriately with anyone of the opposite sex (conversely, they don't mention whether or not it is against the rules to associate inappropriately with anyone of the same sex).
  77. Do not flirt.
  78. Do not date.
  79. Do not communicate via phone or letter with anyone of the opposite sex living within or near mission boundaries.
  80. Do not visit a single or divorced person of the opposite sex unless accompanied by a couple or another adult member of your sex.
  81. Try to teach single investigators in a member’s home or have missionaries of the same sex teach them.
  82. Always follow the above rules, even if the situation seems harmless.
  83. Use the commitment pattern to get referrals from members.
  84. Keep your dinner visits with member briefs and during the customary dinner hour in the area.
  85. Remember to say thank you to those who feed you.
  86. Visit members and nonmembers only at appropriate times.
  87. Do not counsel or give medical treatment.
  88. Do not stay in the homes of people when they are on vacation.
  89. Only write letters to family members and friends at home.
  90. Do not telephone parents
  91. Do not telephone relatives.
  92. Do not telephone friends.
  93. Do not telephone girlfriends.
  94. Contact your mission president in case of an emergency.
  95. Take problems and questions to your mission president.
  96. Do not write to the President of the Church or to other General Authorities. Letters from missionaries to General Authorities are referred back to the mission president
  97. Respect the customs, traditions, and property of the people who you are trying to convert.
  98. Obey all mission rules.
  99. Obey the laws of the land.
  100. Do not get involved in politics.
  101. Do not get involved in commercial activities.
  102. Do not give any information about the area.
  103. Respect the customs and cultures of those who you are trying to convert to your own customs and culture.
  104. Respect the beliefs, practices, and sites of other religions.
  105. Do not say or write anything bad about the political and cultural circumstances where you serve.
  106. Do not become involved in adoption proceedings.
  107. Do not suggest or encourage emigration. (This rule is a bit ironic, given the now-defunct doctrine of gathering the believers to Zion)
  108. Be courteous.
  109. Provide community service.
  110. Do not provide community service that isn’t approved by your mission president.
  111. Do not provide more than 4 hours a week of community service.
  112. Do not provide community service during the evening, weekend or holidays—those are peek proselytizing times.
  113. Your mission president must approve your housing.
  114. Keep your housing unit clean.
  115. Do not live with single or divorced people of the opposite sex.
  116. Do not live where the spouse is frequently absent.
  117. Your living unit must have a private bath and entrance.
  118. You may occasionally fast for a special reason, but generally the monthly fast is sufficient.
  119. Do not fast longer than 24 hours at a time.
  120. Do not ask friends, relatives, and members to join in special fasts for investigators.
  121. Maintain your health.
  122. Eat a healthy diet.
  123. Sleep from 10:30 to 6:30.
  124. Follow the approved exercise program.
  125. Keep your body, clothes, dishes, linens, towels and housing unit clean.
  126. Dispose of your garbage properly and promptly.
  127. Follow the safety rules for all of your stuff.
  128. Seek medical care if you are in an accident or become sick.
  129. Be immunized.
  130. Spend your money only on things relating to your mission.
  131. Budget your money carefully.
  132. Keep a record of what you spend.
  133. Do not spend more than your companion.
  134. Do not loan money.
  135. Do not borrow money.
  136. Keep a reserve fund of $50 to $100 at all times for transfers.
  137. Pay your bills before leaving an area.
  138. Pay cash for all resale literature and supplies ordered from the mission office.
  139. Do not waste money on souvenirs.
  140. Do not waste money on unnecessary items.
  141. Be a frugal photographer.
  142. Do not accumulate excess baggage.
  143. Obey custom laws and regulations.
  144. Pay fast offerings each fast Sunday to the bishop or branch president where you serve.
  145. Pay tithing on outside sources of income (i.e. interest) to your home bishop or branch president.
  146. Evaluate your funds a few months before the end of your mission. If you have more than you need, ask that less be sent so that you can return home without excess money.
  147. Do not drive without a license.
  148. Drive only Church-owned vehicles.
  149. Do not drive members’ cars.
  150. Do not drive nonmembers’ cars.
  151. Do not give rides to members or investigators in Church-owned cars.
  152. Use cars only on approved mission business.
  153. Use cars only within the assigned geographical area.
  154. Be conscious of safety at all times.
  155. Drive defensively.
  156. Wear your seat belt.
  157. Pray for the Lord’s protection while driving.
  158. If your companion is driving, assist him or her.
  159. Do not tamper with the vehicle’s odometer.
  160. Know bicycle safety rules.
  161. Use extreme caution on your bicycle.
  162. Do not ride your bicycle after dark.
  163. Do not ride your bicycle in heavy traffic.
  164. Do not ride your bicycle in adverse weather conditions.
  165. Go directly to your new area when transferred.
  166. Find your new companion without delay when transferred.
  167. Have a maximum of two suitcases and a briefcase.

53 posted on 05/27/2012 12:13:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Williams

Yup, all must be because many are. That makes a whole lot of nonsense.

There’s an infinite number of wrong answers to questions that have only one right answer, but the one right answer still exists and is still right.


54 posted on 05/27/2012 12:19:59 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Elsie
I could follow all the rules except this one:

Do not handle explosives.

55 posted on 05/27/2012 12:21:17 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Really? How do you get that? There is more than one way to be “wrong”, all this shows is that BOTH are wrong.

And as far as I can tell Romney hasn’t been crowned queen of the ball yet.


56 posted on 05/27/2012 12:21:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Lazamataz

You may think that is what is being said, but it isn’t.

There is a difference between proclaiming and teaching views that are clearly not part of a faith’s doctrines, and people who agree on the doctrines essential to be considered as faithful to their particular faith, but have disagreements on non-essential issues.

This seven point breakdown touches on the former. There are differences in main essential points about who God is, what is required for salvation, etc. These are not minor points.


57 posted on 05/27/2012 12:26:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I was informed my greyfoxx39 that any dissent on this thread will be reported to the moderator, so I hereby avail myself of my Fifth Amendment rights.


58 posted on 05/27/2012 12:27:02 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Originally Luther did not want to leave the RC church.

However there was a point in which he saw he had to because reform was impossible. If anything they dug into their heretical positions more solidly than ever.

But we are told that the truth of the Word of God will cause this to occur in some people. Others it will break through. Due to the unique characters and free will of different people. That doesn’t mean the approach isn’t valid or doesn’t do what it is intended to do. Or that they aren’t beyond hope of reaching with a different approach.


59 posted on 05/27/2012 12:34:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

:) oboy...


60 posted on 05/27/2012 12:37:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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