Posted on 12/19/2011 4:02:26 PM PST by rhema
Who demands answers from others?
Who doesn't talk about their own faith?
So, if that person instead of talking about their faith instead says "bug off", that tells everyone a lot about what they actually believe....
What I believe is in my posting history. I make no secret about it. If anyone can't understand it, they can ask for clarification at the time.
Likely if someone doesn't understand the position I hold, this is the problem.....
1 Corinthians 2:11-16 11For who knows a persons thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God. 13And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.
14The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. 16 "For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.
I hate to break it to you, but all the explanations in the world are not going to make sense to someone who does not have spiritual discernment and enlightenment.
“What I believe is in my posting history. I make no secret about it. If anyone can’t understand it, they can ask for clarification at the time.”
Should FR be like the Oprah show? Everyone yak about themselves and oh, be sure and bring some “confession” like a dish to a pot luck supper? Fergitaboutit!
there's a screen name met, mom
Who doesn't talk about their own faith? -- strange that you of all people ask about that.
Read through the entire posting history and you'll see nothing of what the person believes, rather it is continuously "I will not say what I believe, but I will condemn you for what you believe". the word is hypocritical.
The difference is that when someone is a Jehovah’s Witness and will only focus on mocking orthodoxy, that’s hypocritical. Not talking about met when I say Jehovah’s Witness = count-your-change
A person who says "bug off, I won't tell you what my beliefs are, rather I will mock your beliefs, make up stories about what you belief etc." -- that person has no aim to spread the word of God, to spread the teachings of Christ (or whoever) they believe in, rather it is a way of venting frustration. Sad....
But, why are you making this about you? It’s about the group’s belief.
Why are your posts so adversarial to metmom, when as a member of the body we could support one another?
And I might add, taking disagreements personally?
Thanks and shalom.
Oh for goodness sake Judith, the End Times ping list that metmom is using is a multi-denominational ping list. There's Protestants, Catholics and Messianic Jews as well as Orthodox Jews on it and I seem to remember an Orthodox Christian on there too, but I could be wrong on that last one. Heck, I think we've even got a Jehovah's Witness or two on the list as well.
The point is that we all believe different things about the End Times but we're mature enough to talk to each other without flame-baiting each other on doctrine. We know we disagree on things but that doesn't stop us from talking to each other and explaining why we believe what we believe.
Quit trying to make it something that it's not.
1 Peter 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1 Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
Jeremiah 8:9 The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of the LORD; and what wisdom is in them?
>>I hate to break it to you, but all the explanations in the world are not going to make sense to someone who does not have spiritual discernment and enlightenment.<<
1 Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
thank you — I’ve pmed you
Oh, I’m not taking any issue personally. Rather is it mockery to call Jehovah’s Witnesses silly when they tell us not to have blood transfusions?
The Jehovah’s Witnesses say “As with abortion due to medical necessity transfusion of blood for medical necessity is a term proving obsolete. “ — now is it mockery to call that a false, delusional comparison?
If a poster says “When/If you are able to speak to the subject in a serious and even slightly informed way please let me know. “ — isn’t that making disagreements personal?
What is incredible is the hypocrisy that “oh, I can criticise the mote in your eye but you can’t comment on the plank in mine”....
That heresy was promulgated by the Roman Pontiff, Constantine in 325CE.
Okay, color me confused here Uri. I thought that Messianics believed that God the Father and God the Son were one and the same. I also thought that they believed that the Holy Spirit was God as well.
How does the MJ view of God differ from the traditional view of the Trinity? The Trinity isn't three Gods, as I've seen some argue, it's one God in three Persons.
What am I missing here?
Take you as a contrary example, you say what you believe and why you do not agree with our beliefs. Fine. Even more, you will say that among people who believe the same as you do, there are small faults and they need to be worked on.
As I've said before about what we acknowledge (Trinity, etc) -- when you say you believe in "this", we have a common point, we have a commonality. It means that beyond that we can argue, bitterly even, but we will know that we have something in common.
The alternative is "I will not tell you what I believe but I disagree with everything you believe in" -- this leads to no dialogue, this does not even lead to that person preaching what they may believe is the right way or even giving people direction, rather it is just a fight zone then -- "I disagree with everything about you, I am utterly not you and reject everything about you".
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