Skip to comments.Must We Believe in the Virgin Birth?
Posted on 12/19/2011 4:02:26 PM PST by rhema
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Also what helps the Jewish/Christian scriptures is what is called “Biblical archeology” in Israel.
I do believe what helped the Bible cause was this one Israeli who has become a “legend” in the field of Bible Archaeology, Yigael Yadin. Here is an article about this writer’s friendship with Mr. Yadin:
Baiting if I’ve ever seen it.
Working on the presumption of guilt or knowledge of a position held is intellectually dishonest debate tactic and only amounts to flame baiting.
Because this is not an unrecognized tactic from Catholics, I’m not going there. Until there is some integrity in the questions asked, they will remain unanswered.
Assume the worse if you will. It will happen anyway, no matter what I say.
Man, that was a work of beauty. Apparently that’s what passes for religious discussion; assuming of course one is either horribly ashamed of their own religion’s stance on a subject, or just too plain ignorant to be able to explain it.
You know, I was under the mistaken idea that all those recent translations were done ‘without any monkey business’. Yet, I have had it demonstrated that that is not so.
Granted, at first the KJV may be a bit difficult to understand. I liken it to when I was in high school and had to read Shakespeares Othello. Boy, was THAT hard to undertsand. At first. But as ones mind begins to wrap itself around that different way of thinking/speaking, it becomes easier and more understandable.
The same is true for the KJV. Indeed, once one becomes accustomed to the language, it can be quite beautiful.
Additionally, one should look at the groups, the very people involved in these nice new ‘translations’. In many cases, they are not ones that should be involved in a Faithful translation of Gods Word.
Perhaps a better "phraseology" for the question might have been, "Do we have the choice to believe in the virgin birth or not?"
That’s because Jesus IS The Word:
 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  The same was in the beginning with God.  All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made.  In him was life, and the life was the light of men.  And the light shineth in darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.  This man came for a witness, to give testimony of the light, that all men might believe through him.  He was not the light, but was to give testimony of the light.  That was the true light, which enlighteneth every man that cometh into this world.  He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.  But as many as received him, he gave them power to be made the sons of God, to them that believe in his name.  Who are born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we saw his glory, the glory as it were of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.  John beareth witness of him, and crieth out, saying: This was he of whom I spoke: He that shall come after me, is preferred before me: because he was before me.
They aren't...They don't exist...
Not your bible...
Unitariarns definitely are not Christian.
I’m disappointed in Messianics if they reject the Virgin Birth. This is the first I’ve heard of this.
Yes. It’s called “Faith”
Messianics do not reject the Virgin Birth; Miriam's role was not her 2. Joseph is descended from King David. 3. The inheritance exception granted for 4. If a woman who has no brothers marries 5. Joseph and Miriam are married As we speak, in Israel they are lighting the first candle for Chanukah. Careful reading of YHvH's WORD if illuminated by the Ru'ach HaKodesh Yah'shua was born on the YHvH commanded feast of Tabernacles. One might want to become more skeptical of members of the Roman "church" All Praise for the Light of the world
There are some who are just making stuff up ! shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
they are the only ones who have clearly explained
from scripture the purpose of the virgin birth
that does not include the Queen of Heaven.
characteristics or value,
but her bloodlines to King David,
having no brothers and
the exception started by
the daughters of Zelophehad.
There are five things that are important here:
1. Miriam is a daughter who has no brothers Some members of the Roman "church" are acting on orders
and is descended from King David.
But he is from a line prohibited to inherit.
the daughters of Zelophehad
(These were daughters who had no brothers)
is in effect SEE: (Numbers 26, 27, 36; Joshua 17; 1 Chronicles 7).
a man of the same tribe
She can inherit forever.
(each descended from King David)
thus providing Miriam with permanent
inheritance of the Kingship of David
for her to pass on to her son Yah'shua (Messiahship).
from their god haSatan in an attempt to discredit all who
disagree with Constantine's Roman "church"
will demonstrate the on this Feast the Light of the world
took on the garment of human flesh as the Lamb of G-d
on the first day of Chanukah.
as we enter endtimes as there seems to be a one world religion movement.
entering to tabernacle with us and redeem us.
Messianics do not reject the Virgin Birth;
Miriam's role was not her
2. Joseph is descended from King David.
3. The inheritance exception granted for
4. If a woman who has no brothers marries
5. Joseph and Miriam are married
As we speak, in Israel they are lighting the first candle for Chanukah.
Careful reading of YHvH's WORD if illuminated by the Ru'ach HaKodesh
Yah'shua was born on the YHvH commanded feast of Tabernacles.
One might want to become more skeptical of members of the Roman "church"
All Praise for the Light of the world
Really? On what basis does this sect say that the Virgin Birth was false?
Wait a minute,Uri — your posts in the past have denied Christ’s divinity. Is that taken back? btw, xzins, I don’t know if Uri represents all Messianics or their philosophy.
It's incredible -- if they can only attack other's faith rather than talking about their own it says a lot....
Salvation - some believe in the Koran instead....
Perhaps you just want to play " you and him fight !" I have NEVER denied the divinity of Yah'shua ! I reject the Roman "church" DOGMA of the Trinity. YHvH has appeared to mankind at various times in different modes. Yah'shua clearly stated that there is only ONE G-d: YHvH. YHvH's NAME has been blotted out over seven thousand times
I can not tell if you are functionally illiterate or shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
see and believe only what you want to believe.
Theophanies, the Spirit of YHvH, Shekinah.
see Mark 12:29, where Peter is quoting Yah'shua.
in all English translations and replaced with "LORD".
Perhaps you just want to play " you and him fight !"
I have NEVER denied the divinity of Yah'shua !
I reject the Roman "church" DOGMA of the Trinity.
YHvH has appeared to mankind at various times in different modes.
Yah'shua clearly stated that there is only ONE G-d: YHvH.
YHvH's NAME has been blotted out over seven thousand times
Cronos, I've got to stop you here. I can't answer directly for metmom, but I do know that in most areas the two of us agree on Biblical topics and I've never heard her reject the Virgin Birth, nor do I know of any other Protestants which do reject the Virgin Birth. That's one of the fundamentals of the Faith which all branches of Christianity agree upon.
As for your claim that Uri's group denies the Virgin Birth, where has this been claimed? I've not heard this at all.
Please, explain yourself here.
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