Cronos, I've got to stop you here. I can't answer directly for metmom, but I do know that in most areas the two of us agree on Biblical topics and I've never heard her reject the Virgin Birth, nor do I know of any other Protestants which do reject the Virgin Birth. That's one of the fundamentals of the Faith which all branches of Christianity agree upon.
As for your claim that Uri's group denies the Virgin Birth, where has this been claimed? I've not heard this at all.
Please, explain yourself here.
Valid question -- I've interacted with XeniaST for years and that is where that statement comes from.
As to his statement that "Yah'shua clearly stated that there is only ONE G-d: YHvH. see Mark 12:29, where Peter is quoting Yah'shua." -- and that "YHvH has appeared to mankind at various times in different modes." --> I stand corrected -- XeniaST does believe in the Unity in Trinity, God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit
He’s working on assumptions and you know what happens when one assumes something......
Except UriÂ’el-2012 and I are exempt. It’s just self-inflicted at that point.
And I’m not playing his stupid little gotcha games.
As for your claim that Uri's group denies the Virgin Birth, where has this been claimed? I've not heard this at all.
Until Cronos can provide some solid evidence of these things that he's stating about us, it's all tilting at windmills.
Making baseless blanket statements about people based on nothing but conjecture is not debate with any kind of honesty or integrity.
My posting history is there for all to see and my position on every topic he's accused me of can be found there.
Cronos, if you can point me or anyone else to specific posts that we have made that would lead you to arrive at the *your group* kind of conclusions you keep throwing out at me and others, post them and I'll address mine specifically.
But I am not and will not engage in stupid gotcha games whose sole purpose seems to be nothing other than finding out personal information about other FReepers or providing ANYONE with the opportunity to pass judgment on the validity of my faith because it doesn't match someone else's opinion.
If you're going to base your questioning on presumptions and expect me to disprove them or concede to them, you will be having a long wait.
My refusal to engage means nothing more than the fact that I recognize bating and manipulation tactics and will not be baited or manipulated.
Matthew 5:11-12 11 "Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. 12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
The Pharisees falsely accused Jesus as well. I can wear it as a badge of honor to be keeping His company.
So, Cronos, bug off.