Posted on 10/25/2009 5:47:50 AM PDT by NYer
Your reading skills are not the best.
Good thing you're not talking about the Catholic Church.
“Most Catholics I know have read the entire Douay-Rheims by the time they were 15yo usually starting about the time they go through Confirmation.”
Interesting. My wife recently started work as a nurse in a Catholic Hospital. One of the Catholic nurses told her ‘We aren’t allowed to read our Bibles’.
Yes, I know that is NOT the Catholic Church’s position - but yes, the belief IS out there, even many years after the Catholic Church agreed to allow laity to read scripture.
You said attending Mass every week was a part of a group of things that have nothing to do with Jesus.
I demonstrated why you were wrong.
Fine. Supply my need from your wisdom. Give the examples of Paul, Peter and John hearing confession, that they might forgive sins.
Personally, I'm with Buddha on this one:
“No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path.” -Buddha
One way is to follow the Holy Word of G-d Yah'shua said not to be like the Nicolaitans. There are two ways to look through a telescope.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
or man-made Tradition. NAsbU Revelation 2:6 'Yet this you do have,
that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans,
which I also hate. Nicolaism (also Nicholaism, Nicolationism, or Nicolaitanism) is a Christian heresy
whose adherents are called nicolaitans, nicolaitanes, or nicolaites.
"Nico" means "conquer" in Greek, and "Laitan" refers to lay people, or laity;
hence, the word may be taken to mean "Lay conquerors" or Conquerors of the Lay People.
Suuuuure.
>>As I said all Romanists can be saved...But most would no longer be Romanists...<<
How so?
What hospital do you claim this happened at?
The Catholic Church is the most faithful way to do this.
...or man-made Tradition.
Sorry, that kind of stuff (sola fide, sola Scriptura, pretentious Judaicizing, TULIP, e-meters and engrams, once-saved-always-saved, peepstones and sacred undergarments, etc.) is well outside the Catholic Church.
John 20:21-23 (King James Version)
21Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
22And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
23Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
OK. And the Jewish "faith" was lifted whole cloth from Babylonian mythology.
The anonymous internet guys lose that battle everytime.
This one:
http://www.carondelet.org/home/hospitals-locations/st.-marys-hospital.aspx
Good hospital, and my wife is thrilled to be working there. As I said, it was one of her fellow nurses (a Catholic) who told her that - NOT IAW Catholic teaching.
That would be a lazy Catholic and probably depends upon which church they attend. More liberal Catholics tend to be this way.
2 Corinthians 5:11-21 (New International Version)
The Ministry of Reconciliation
11Since, then, we know what it is to fear the Lord, we try to persuade men. What we are is plain to God, and I hope it is also plain to your conscience. 12We are not trying to commend ourselves to you again, but are giving you an opportunity to take pride in us, so that you can answer those who take pride in what is seen rather than in what is in the heart. 13If we are out of our mind, it is for the sake of God; if we are in our right mind, it is for you. 14For Christ’s love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died. 15And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.
16So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. 17Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! 18All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. 20We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God. 21God made him who had no sin to be sin[a] for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
No I did not. I said the Catholic are required to attend mass every week. If I listed a dozen objects in the garage and then added and thousands of parts of a car. That does not mean everything I listed before in the garage is part of the car.
BTW - it is a Catholic Hospital, but they hire nurses of all beliefs...I didn’t mean to suggest it was a nun who told her, just a nurse who is Catholic.
NYer already provided the idea of Reconciliation in Scripture (John 20:22-23, Matt 16:19, Epistle of Straw 5:16 and elsewhere). The quote I offered made no mention of an “example.”
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