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Coins from Era of Biblical Joseph Found in Egypt
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Posted on 09/26/2009 7:15:42 PM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

Golden treasure hoard from the times immediately following the reign of King Arthur, and now coins from the time of Joseph in Egypt! This has been a good week for archeology.

The modern notion that the ancients were stupid knuckle-draggers has been tested, and found unworthy.

Hegelians can find that neanderthal, they just need to pick up a good mirror.


21 posted on 09/26/2009 8:13:14 PM PDT by blackpacific
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To: Niuhuru

Because hypocrisy is a way of life with liberals. There is literally NOTHING that they do not have a double standard on.


22 posted on 09/26/2009 8:16:20 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

koran......pffft.
It doesn’t even rise to the standard of toilet paper.


24 posted on 09/26/2009 8:25:02 PM PDT by SentForth5 (Just sayin' is all...)
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25 posted on 09/26/2009 8:50:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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whoops.
26 posted on 09/26/2009 8:52:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: OneWingedShark

The story of Joseph doesn’t mention coins. It mentions “money” or “silver.” In the original Hebrew, the word is “keceph.” This means both “money” and “silver,” exactly as in French, where the word “argent” means both “money” & “silver.” (That’s why the periodic symbol for the element silver is Ag.)
For ages untold, beginning in Sumer, silver was hacked into small pieces & used as money until coinage was invented in Asia Minor around 600 BC.
(My master’s degree from Harvard is in Biblical archaeology, so trust me on this.)


27 posted on 09/26/2009 8:52:57 PM PDT by TimeLord (A whale fetus is a whale; a human fetus is a blob.)
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To: muawiyah

“The result was “The Koran”, a document handed down intact by God through an Archangel.”

Respected scholars have reported that “The Koran” was actually found in a rest stop for camel jockeys; it was covered with sand, dirt, semen and feces. It was buried under a 2 meter layer of lard.


28 posted on 09/26/2009 8:54:00 PM PDT by Rembrandt
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29 posted on 09/26/2009 8:58:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

I would just love to see the portrait of Joseph. Are there any pictures of the coins?


30 posted on 09/26/2009 9:31:05 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Verginius Rufus

There was recently a thread here showing some coins dating more than 1000 years before that.


31 posted on 09/26/2009 9:55:49 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: shield

Depending on how accurate the portrait of Joseph is, this would be the first time in 20 centuries that anyone has been able to see what any bible figure looks like.


32 posted on 09/27/2009 12:01:03 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: TimeLord

What this means is that what is taught at Harvard needs to be updated? According to my Douay Rheims, Joseph was in Egypt around 1720 B.C.

Maybe this will open an inquest into the lies surrounding Egyptology and the “lost Hittite” empire, that missing 800 years of history which Velikovski writes about. I think he had something to say about Joseph as well.


33 posted on 09/27/2009 3:41:39 AM PDT by blackpacific
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To: editor-surveyor
The latter point, "Jewish sages", would be impossible. The material in the Koran clearly comes from a very ancient but divergent Torah of unknown origin but likely dug up from womewhere in the vicinity of Mecca, not something some folks just wrote up in Mohammad's time. Jews at the time of Mohammad would pretty clearly be using the very same Torah we know today ~ without error ~ as you well know.

Regarding the quite obvious fact that the Koran was put together by a committee, it is known that this occurred in Damascus many years after his death. The far more voluminous Hadiths were also prepared by the same committee.

I said (quite sarcastically) this is how you get a Koran handed down by God from Heaven.

You have to tune up your writing ears a bit!

34 posted on 09/27/2009 6:25:47 AM PDT by muawiyah
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The Shang Dynasty used cowry shells which were marked with a "Bei". They served as small change up until the Shang and others began using cast bronze or copper sheets with uniform serations where you could break off a piece.

They too were marked with a "Bei".

My money is on things with "Bei" marks actually being the first coinage ~ if not coins.

35 posted on 09/27/2009 6:29:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: editor-surveyor

There was a recent thread about the same coins supposedly dating from when Joseph was a powerful official in Egypt, but if there was another one I missed it. Numismatists say the earliest coins were minted around 600 B.C. in the kingdom of Lydia, in western Asia Minor, and the practice was soon picked up by the Greeks. If coins had been in use 1000 years before that, some of them would have been found in datable archaeological contexts since there are so many Bronze Age and early Iron Age sites which have been excavated in Greece, Anatolia, Syria, Israel, Iraq, etc.


36 posted on 09/27/2009 10:30:54 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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You do understand that the whole story depends on what you mean by coinage, coins, small change, pieces, bits, offerings, tokens, etc.

The definition being pushed by the numistists is that anything round, with a head on one side, a message on the other side, and maybe a date of some kind, is a "coin" provided it was obviously issued by or under the authority of a government.

A Chucky Cheese token would qualify in all respects if it has a "value 1/10 of a cent" message somewhere ~ (as required by many state governments). Something that's not round wouldn't qualify.

All of which means one man's coin is another man's millstone!

37 posted on 09/27/2009 10:57:34 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Its clear from the Kabbalistic eschatology contained in the koran that it had to be written by apostate Jewish sages. Who else even understood such Satanic verses?


38 posted on 09/27/2009 1:43:21 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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Who? It doesn't take a Jewish Sage to C&P something already written in the past.

You do realize that before modern times, even going back into the Greek period, there were divergent Jewish sects ~ and many Jews who'd been long separated from the Jewish communities along the Mediterranean had their own visits with God AND kept at hand some of the older stories that'd been dropped by other Jews elsewhere.

The committee in Damascus simply called before them Arab followers of Mohammad who had copied down what he'd said to them and assembled it for review. Some items were clearly appropriate for the (then hypothetical from our Western point of view but "actual" according to the currently accepted Moslem point of view) Koran, other items assigned to the Hadiths (with sources identified), and yet others just set aside as not being Moslem, or not having all that much connection to to the main theme.

The written material was allegedly in Classical Arabic, but studyof some of the oldest copies of the Koran strongly suggests it was written in Aramaic ~ with written Arabic developing out of that linguistic tradition later.

The authorities in Damascus would have been schooled in Christian, not Jewish, eschatology.

From that point on not a whole lot is heard of Arabic, or Islam. The supposed Moslems actually attended Christian Orthodox religious services for the next 200+ years.

Over that period of time something happened to separate out the Arab Moslems from the Christians, and the Koran became an important item among the self-identified Moslems but not among the Christians.

Modern Islamic authorities suppress all attempts to research that period.

Fur Shur the Jews didn't do it!

39 posted on 09/27/2009 3:05:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

You live in fantasy land! All very amusing, but no factual support.


40 posted on 09/27/2009 5:02:24 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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