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To: mrjesse
I hope you don't lie about other things either

Our society would collapse if we never lied

123 posted on 08/02/2008 3:09:40 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Soliton
Our society would collapse if we never lied

Uhh, I'm not too sure about that. Our society is collapsing, in part because people are lying (and cheating, then lying about it). Look around. In any case, I'm pretty sure our society wouldn't collapse just because you and I refrained from telling a lie.

-Jesse
128 posted on 08/02/2008 3:26:17 PM PDT by mrjesse (Could it be true? Imagine, being forgiven, and having a cause, greater then yourself, to live for!)
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To: Soliton
Our society would collapse if we never lied

Oh, and PS:

It sounds like you consider it important that lying is sometimes OK which requires that God not exist, since in the Bible God tells us to not lie. Thus I can see that you have a reason besides science to hope that the universe came to be by some other means then God.

Am I wrong?

-Jesse
130 posted on 08/02/2008 3:28:58 PM PDT by mrjesse (Could it be true? Imagine, being forgiven, and having a cause, greater then yourself, to live for!)
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To: Soliton
Our society would collapse if we never lied

Oh, whoops, sorry, PPS:

The problem with me knowing that you do think it's okay to sometimes lie is that now I have no idea what you will lie about and what you won't lie about. For example, you said you would never lie about DNA sequencing or whatnot. But you might consider it okay to lie about whether you would lie to me about something - so it renders your word almost useless. How do I know whether you're really telling me the truth, or you're only lying and telling me it's the truth?

And of course you can't always tell me when you're lying or then it'll ruin the element of deceit and the lie will then be ineffective, so I cannot even depend on you telling me that you lie when you do.

-Jesse
132 posted on 08/02/2008 3:35:31 PM PDT by mrjesse (Could it be true? Imagine, being forgiven, and having a cause, greater then yourself, to live for!)
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