[mrjesse]

Our society would collapse if we never lied

Oh, whoops, sorry, PPS:

The problem with me knowing that you do think it's okay to sometimes lie is that now I have no idea what you will lie about and what you won't lie about. For example, you said you would never lie about DNA sequencing or whatnot. But you might consider it okay to lie about whether you would lie to me about something - so it renders your word almost useless. How do I know whether you're really telling me the truth, or you're only lying and telling me it's the truth?

And of course you can't always tell me when you're lying or then it'll ruin the element of deceit and the lie will then be ineffective, so I cannot even depend on you telling me that you lie when you do.

-Jesse

[Soliton]

So being honest is cause for being disbelieved? I supply sources and information. Never believe anything on faith. Look at the data. Use scienc, but never, never believe anyone who claims they don’t lie. It is the surest sign that they are a liar.