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A Review of In Defense of Israel by John Hagee
The Nicene Council ^ | Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry, Jr.

Posted on 03/07/2008 6:15:30 AM PST by topcat54

In this work Hagee beautifully weaves strands of incompetence with cords of error to create a tapestry of Judeolatry. This book contains almost as many errors as it does pages. Due to space limitations I will only briefly list some of them. It is necessary, however, to survey evidence of his biblical and historical incompetence to demonstrate how his theological error is simply the conclusion of that incompetence. This will show how dangerous he is as an influence in the Church.

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In conclusion, this book should have a label on it warning the readers: “Contains doctrine that is hazardous to your spiritual health.” He at least could have titled it “Leave Behind,” as a suggestion as to what we should do with it.

(Excerpt) Read more at nicenecouncil.com ...


TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: eschatology; hagee; proisrael

1 posted on 03/07/2008 6:15:31 AM PST by topcat54
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To: topcat54
Hmmm . . . a poorly-reasoned review written by an idiot of a poorly-reasoned book written by another idiot.

Yet I can't look away.

2 posted on 03/07/2008 6:19:54 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: topcat54

Ping to read later


3 posted on 03/07/2008 6:27:11 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: topcat54
Actually I amend my first comment after finishing the whole article: the reviewer makes some very tendentious inferences in the survey of the review, but if his characterization of Hagee's remarks is indeed correct, then he also makes a handful of interesting points.

And if Hagee is accurately quoted, this book makes Hagee look even worse than he already does.

4 posted on 03/07/2008 6:32:39 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: topcat54
I couldn't make it through the article. I think Hagee is right and I could vote for him for President.
5 posted on 03/07/2008 7:39:53 AM PST by mountainlyons (confused conservative)
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To: topcat54

I know nothing about John Hagee.

However, Romans 11:25 is a golden verse that unlocks an understanding of God’s present and future plans for Israel.


6 posted on 03/07/2008 7:46:33 AM PST by fishtank (Fenced BORDERS, English LANGUAGE, Patriotic CULTURE: A good plan.)
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To: fishtank
However, Romans 11:25 is a golden verse that unlocks an understanding of God’s present and future plans for Israel.

"For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. "

What does that verse mean and how is it the "golden verse that unlocks" our understanding of the future of Israel?

7 posted on 03/07/2008 10:33:24 AM PST by topcat54 ("Light beer is the devil's beverage.")
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To: mountainlyons; fishtank

“I think Hagee is right and I could vote for him for President.” — mountainlyons

“I know nothing about John Hagee.” — fishtank

Obvioualy someone needs to work on his name recognition if you want him for President.


8 posted on 03/07/2008 10:51:58 AM PST by topcat54 ("Light beer is the devil's beverage.")
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To: topcat54

Anyone who read Hagee’s book “Jerusalem Countdown” (or tried to read it - it’s also horrible) shouldn’t be surprised at this. I used to like him when I would stumble on his show occasionaly, his preaching seemed sound, but once I read his nonsensical “dual-covenant” theology I lost all interest.


9 posted on 03/07/2008 11:38:57 AM PST by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: wideawake
Time to get up and change your clock.

The "review" pretty clearly takes rhetorical questions out of context ~ sorry, all you have to do is watch a couple of Hagee sermons to understand his speaking style ~ he follows a very precise standard.

What you've done is discover another anti-semitic site targeted at Hagee, or whoever.

I'm just waiting until this guy discovers the Pope is rehabilitating Martin Luther.

10 posted on 03/08/2008 10:39:53 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: joebuck
True enough, Hagee rejects "replacement theology" ~ he doesn't exactly say that it's anti-semitic, but his argument is pretty simple ~ Christianity SUPPLEMENTS but does not replace Judaism.

That's not exactly a popular position is it.

11 posted on 03/08/2008 10:42:12 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"That's not exactly a popular position is it"

Because it is not a Biblical position

12 posted on 03/09/2008 8:05:11 AM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: joebuck

“Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.”


13 posted on 03/09/2008 8:13:07 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Always Right

“You praise me with your lips but your hearts are far from me. You have traded the precepts of God for the commandments of men.”


14 posted on 03/09/2008 8:43:26 AM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: Always Right; joebuck
If we believe that the Law and the Prophets were preparation for the Messiah, and that the Messiah fulfilled the Law and the Prophets, then it does not make sense to claim - as Hagee apparently does - that the Law and the Prophets continue on as if they had never been fulfilled by the Messiah.

Christians like to point to the completed work of Christ ("It is finished") - what work did Christ complete? He fulfilled the Law and the Prophets. That is why the veil of the Temple became torn at His death - to show that the Temple in Jerusalem was no longer the site of the Presence.

The Temple and its sacrifices had been fulfilled by Jesus' perfect and eternal sacrifice.

The Epistle To The Hebrews is essentially a lengthy disquisition on this doctrine.

To assert - as Hagee seems to - that Jesus' perfect and eternal sacrifice does not really apply to the Jews at the moment - undermines Scriptural doctrine.

15 posted on 03/09/2008 9:13:14 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: muawiyah
The "review" pretty clearly takes rhetorical questions out of context

In some cases that is clear, which is why the tone of the review initially rubbed me completely the wrong way. The charge of "Judeolatry" is disgusting and unjustified, and the very word reeks of the sulphur of anti-Semitism.

What you've done is discover another anti-semitic site targeted at Hagee

The site seems to be mostly anti-Dispensationalism, although as I pointed out, the author's tone seems darker than that.

I'm just waiting until this guy discovers the Pope is rehabilitating Martin Luther.

Heh heh.

16 posted on 03/09/2008 9:17:30 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
BTW, the "other site" the anti-Hagee folks like to cite is run by an homosexual activist with several axes to grind.

He doggone near took an entire book out of context.

Hagee can't be all bad with enemies like these.

Church history reveals that Christians and Jews didn't differentiate themselves as such (the way we do) in the First and Second century. At some point there seems to have been a separation however.

I've always found it useful to think of Judaism as simply another blend of the same religious tradition, albeit one interrupted in its development by Bar Kochba and his attempt to resurrect Judea as an independent state.

17 posted on 03/09/2008 6:02:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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