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What Can Protestants Expect From The New Pope?
Modern Reformation ^ | APRIL, 21, 2005 | Michael S. Horton

Posted on 02/05/2006 12:36:59 PM PST by Gamecock

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I've never met a Protestant that keeps up with Rome or is concerned about it's agenda.
In my experience, this has NEVER even come up.


21 posted on 02/05/2006 4:51:22 PM PST by bonfire
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To: AlbionGirl

Oh, I don't think they're so "inclined." 8~)


22 posted on 02/05/2006 4:53:06 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (an ambassador in bonds)
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To: bonfire

Haven't you participated on some of the RC/Protestant threads?


23 posted on 02/05/2006 4:55:16 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (an ambassador in bonds)
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To: Gamecock
"It is not the ideology of adaptation that will rescue Christianity,”

I don't quite understand this. What does it need to be rescued from? There will always be unbelievers, the Church has always struggled with being part of the world, but apart from it too. When the Church and the Papacy became secularized and led to the Reformation, it needed reformation, but that's not the same as rescuing. In any event, does anything like that lurk today?

If the promise of Christ is to be believed, that the gates of Hell will not prevail, then the Church is the one who rescues. If he's saying that we could all live the Faith more authentically (my goodness, I think I just quoted Al Gore), more vibrantly, then I agree, but I just don't know what he means by Christianity being in need of rescuing.

24 posted on 02/05/2006 5:30:15 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: Gamecock
But “the separation of Church and Scripture tends to erode both from within.” A Church without Scripture is merely a human organization, while the Bible without the Church “is also no longer the powerfully effective Word of God, but an assemblage of various historical sources…”

The separation of Church and Scripture as he describes here, seems a worse fate than the second scenario he describes. "Where two or more are gathered in my Name, there also will I be." I don't think that needs a ton of exegesis, does it?

In fact, the saints, who did not have the benefit “scientific” exegesis, “were the ones who understood it best” (76).

I think I agree with that. Christ's choice of His Apostles seem to agree with that too.

The Trinity is in need of rediscovery as well, since in much of theology today “The Son [is] reduced, the Father forgotten.”

I get tripped up when I'm praying sometimes because I begin thinking I've got the whole order wrong. I'm praying to Christ, but I have to remind myself that the Father is the First Person of the Trinity. The Holy Spirit I do call on, so it's mostly Our Father that I have to bring myself back to, and I don't quite know why that is.

25 posted on 02/05/2006 5:48:29 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: Gamecock

This seems like a fair piece from our protestant brethren. Christ desired that he could gather up all the Jews like a mother hen, I'm sure He feels the same about we Gentiles. I have for a long time had a lot more respect for the fire-and-brimstone protestants than the wishy-washy Jesus is our friend types. I like what the ECT crowd was attempting to do. I think it is difficult to say the least, to fight for truth in faith, yet recognize that Christians should hang together against the secular world or we should surely hang separately.


26 posted on 02/05/2006 5:50:29 PM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Sorry, Dr. E I didn't see the word 'if' in your original post to me.

Emily Latella: Nevermind!


27 posted on 02/05/2006 5:52:26 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: Gamecock

Christ also established His Authority of the church through Peter the Rock, who was the first Pope.

Still, as long as Protestants accept Christ as their Lord and Savior for their salvation, I don't think the current Pope has problems with them at all.


28 posted on 02/05/2006 5:55:39 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: bonfire
I've never met a Protestant that keeps up with Rome or is concerned about it's agenda. In my experience, this has NEVER even come up.

I take it you don't get out much.

29 posted on 02/05/2006 5:57:21 PM PST by topcat54 (Roman Catholic by birth ... Protestant by the grace of God.)
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To: Gamecock
Allow me to summarize: "This Pope, like the preceding one, is a Catholic, and we don't like that one bit."

(Why it takes several pages to explain this, or why a Protestant -- or anyone else -- would find that remarkable, is something that would require explanation. However, that would seem to be throwing good bandwidth after bad.)

30 posted on 02/05/2006 6:32:07 PM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Terabitten

Wow, you mean the "church" was created 1517 after the birth of Christ?


31 posted on 02/05/2006 9:10:20 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: Gamecock
While mainline Protestants demonstrate ambivalence about this new pope, probably in large measure because of their liberal biases in theology and ethics...

Since Catholic dogma is deemed irrelevant to Protestants' belief in eternal salvation, there is no "ambivalence" of which to opine regarding the Pope.

Only that he does not speak on behalf of "all Christianity."

32 posted on 02/05/2006 9:24:47 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: TheRobb7

I was wondering if he'd be all kissy kissy with the Koran.


33 posted on 02/05/2006 11:00:31 PM PST by Gamecock (..ours is a trivial age, and the church has been deeply affected by this pervasive triviality. JMB)
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To: Terabitten

The Church is the Apostolic Church. Full Stop. If you're not a member of the Apostolic Church (which includes the Assyrian, the Oriental, the orthodox and the Catholic churchs), then you are in imperfect communion with the Church -- at the very least, at worst you are a non-Christian (to which I'd put in non-Trinitarians)


34 posted on 02/06/2006 1:22:09 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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To: Cronos; Terabitten

***The Church is the Apostolic Church.***

Wrong.

The Church is Christ and those who believe. PERIOD.


35 posted on 02/06/2006 2:13:08 AM PST by Gamecock (..ours is a trivial age, and the church has been deeply affected by this pervasive triviality. JMB)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Let me rephrase: Your AVERAGE Protestant doesn't keep up with what goes on in Rome. I don't consider the Prots on this board as "average".....LOL :)


36 posted on 02/06/2006 3:43:26 AM PST by bonfire
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To: Gamecock

Wrong


37 posted on 02/06/2006 4:04:52 AM PST by The Cuban
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To: The Cuban

You go ahead and rely on man's tradition.

I'll trust God.


38 posted on 02/06/2006 4:24:50 AM PST by Gamecock (..ours is a trivial age, and the church has been deeply affected by this pervasive triviality. JMB)
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To: Gamecock

What can Protestants expect from the new Pope?

Nothing of interest if Protestants are Bible based.

This fellow has no effect on me and I don't pay attention to him. What Christ and the Bible states is what my life is centered upon.

What a stupid question!


39 posted on 02/06/2006 4:28:42 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: Gamecock

What can Protestants expect from the new Pope?

Nothing of interest if Protestants are Bible based.

This fellow has no effect on me and I don't pay attention to him. What Christ and the Bible states is what my life is centered upon.

What a stupid question!

For those who care about truth, this question is irrelevant!


40 posted on 02/06/2006 4:29:27 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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