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Voting machine controversy
Cleveland Plain Dealer via Drudge Report ^ | August 31, 2002 | Julie Carr Smyth

Posted on 08/31/2003 11:11:50 AM PDT by Theyknow

Voting machine controversy

08/28/03

Julie Carr Smyth Plain Dealer Bureau

Columbus - The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

The Aug. 14 letter from Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold Inc. - who has become active in the re-election effort of President Bush - prompted Democrats this week to question the propriety of allowing O'Dell's company to calculate votes in the 2004 presidential election.

O'Dell attended a strategy pow-wow with wealthy Bush benefactors - known as Rangers and Pioneers - at the president's Crawford, Texas, ranch earlier this month. The next week, he penned invitations to a $1,000-a-plate fund-raiser to benefit the Ohio Republican Party's federal campaign fund - partially benefiting Bush - at his mansion in the Columbus suburb of Upper Arlington.

The letter went out the day before Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, also a Republican, was set to qualify Diebold as one of three firms eligible to sell upgraded electronic voting machines to Ohio counties in time for the 2004 election.

Blackwell's announcement is still in limbo because of a court challenge over the fairness of the selection process by a disqualified bidder, Sequoia Voting Systems.

In his invitation letter, O'Dell asked guests to consider donating or raising up to $10,000 each for the federal account that the state GOP will use to help Bush and other federal candidates - money that legislative Democratic leaders charged could come back to benefit Blackwell.

They urged Blackwell to remove Diebold from the field of voting-machine companies eligible to sell to Ohio counties.

This is the second such request in as many months. State Sen. Jeff Jacobson, a Dayton-area Republican, asked Blackwell in July to disqualify Diebold after security concerns arose over its equipment.

"Ordinary Ohioans may infer that Blackwell's office is looking past Diebold's security issues because its CEO is seeking $10,000 donations for Blackwell's party - donations that could be made with statewide elected officials right there in the same room," said Senate Democratic Leader Greg DiDonato.

Diebold spokeswoman Michelle Griggy said O'Dell - who was unavailable to comment personally - has held fund-raisers in his home for many causes, including the Columbus Zoo, Op era Columbus, Catholic Social Services and Ohio State University.

Ohio GOP spokesman Jason Mauk said the party approached O'Dell about hosting the event at his home, the historic Cotswold Manor, and not the other way around. Mauk said that under federal campaign finance rules, the party cannot use any money from its federal account for state- level candidates.

"To think that Diebold is somehow tainted because they have a couple folks on their board who support the president is just unfair," Mauk said.

Griggy said in an e-mail statement that Diebold could not comment on the political contributions of individual company employees.

Blackwell said Diebold is not the only company with political connections - noting that lobbyists for voting-machine makers read like a who's who of Columbus' powerful and politically connected.

"Let me put it to you this way: If there was one person uniquely involved in the political process, that might be troubling," he said. "But there's no one that hasn't used every legitimate avenue and bit of leverage that they could legally use to get their product looked at. Believe me, if there is a political lever to be pulled, all of them have pulled it."

Blackwell said he stands by the process used for selecting voting machine vendors as fair, thorough and impartial.

As of yesterday, however, that determination lay with Ohio Court of Claims Judge Fred Shoemaker.

He heard closing arguments yesterday over whether Sequoia was unfairly eliminated by Blackwell midway through the final phase of negotiations.

Shoemaker extended a temporary restraining order in the case for 14 days, but said he hopes to issue his opinion sooner than that.

http://www.cleveland.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/news/106207171078040.xml


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This is a big RAT issue. Why would Drudge add fuel to the fire?
1 posted on 08/31/2003 11:11:51 AM PDT by Theyknow
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To: Theyknow
Because this isn't a partisan matter. If this is true, it should concern every American voter. (And that's a big "IF".)

2 posted on 08/31/2003 11:16:44 AM PDT by huck von finn
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To: huck von finn
Do you really think that Diebold would be so obivous as to support the President and provide rigged machines? The only point the Rats have here is that I guess that I would have problems is Hitlery and her gang of theives was sellings the machines. But there side can't be trusted.
3 posted on 08/31/2003 11:20:00 AM PDT by Americalover
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To: Americalover
I have no idea. That's why I included the big "IF" in my last post.

I find it hard to believe, but IF it is true, it should concern everyone.
4 posted on 08/31/2003 11:22:32 AM PDT by huck von finn
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To: mahinahoku
Everything you need to know about this issue is that the RATS are afraid of these computer voting machines. Now we all know that what really scares them is a free eleciton.

Drudge is the first editorialist on the right to even bring this thing up. Why isn't the right afraid, because everythig we know says that these will help us. We want the votes counted.
6 posted on 08/31/2003 11:26:45 AM PDT by Americalover
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To: Theyknow
This is a big RAT issue. Why would Drudge add fuel to the fire?

Because getting stuff like is out early is the best thing to do...

Tis Voting Machine Company Owner was stupid to say any thing like this ....You and I know what he meant but look how easy it can be spun in a headline

"Voting Machine Owner Committed To Give Votes To Bush".....

It’s perfect ammo for the Dem propaganda campaign... so adress it now while it's harmless

7 posted on 08/31/2003 11:27:12 AM PDT by tophat9000
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To: tophat9000
Agreed. "Trying Hard to be as Corrupt as the Democrats" is not the banner to carry into 2004.
8 posted on 08/31/2003 11:29:15 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Arafat must go!)
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To: Theyknow
I think the headline is misleading. It makes it sound like the machines were rigged.
9 posted on 08/31/2003 11:29:52 AM PDT by lonestar (Weinie for California Governor!)
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To: huck von finn
Because this isn't a partisan matter. If this is true, it should concern every American voter.

So, if someone is involved in any way in the election process, even being an officer of a company that builds (but doesn't operate or control) voting machines they are forbidden to participate in the political process? He didn't say (as the article implies) that he will change how the votes tabulated by the machines his company builds are counted to benefit Bush. He said he will work, by raising money and participating in the LEGAL political process, for the re-election of George Bush. Somehow the rats want to spin that to disqualify him and his firm from participating in the bids for a public contracts.

As if Democrat donors haven't gotten the lions share of government contracts for 100 years. And how about saint Rather? Raising money for Democrats ought to be grounds for CBS to lose all of their FCC licenses, don't you think?

10 posted on 08/31/2003 11:30:36 AM PDT by Phsstpok
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To: thoughtomator
"Trying Hard to be as Corrupt as the Democrats" is not the banner to carry into 2004.

True if your going to be somthing be the best you can be.....so

If your going to be corrupt ...be the best .... become a Democrat

11 posted on 08/31/2003 11:34:38 AM PDT by tophat9000
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To: lonestar
You are right. The fact that it is a Republican who owns the manfacturing process should make everyone feel safer including the RATS who deep down know that without the right there would't be fair elections. The reason it makes them so crazy is that they can no longer fix the elections. Nothing makes a RAT run faster than the light of day on the election process.
12 posted on 08/31/2003 11:35:53 AM PDT by Americalover
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To: Americalover
Do you really think that Diebold would be so obivous as to support the President and provide rigged machines?

The DUh crowd has been bleating precisely that "argument" for at least two years now.

There is little question, though, that we can never totally trust the results of any election conducted via computerized voting, and such machines should not be allowed to be used (and indeed, I give it less than ten years until they start being outlawed state by state as various scandals pop up, real or imagined). For all the mess that Florida 2000 turned out to be, at least we had actual physical ballots to deal with.

The optimal solution, of course, would be going back to something along the lines of the old standards: Paper ballots in sealed boxes; monitors from both parties (and anyone else that wants to watch) at every precinct; multiple police officers riding along as ballot boxes are delivered to the county courthouse; all boxes opened and all votes counted in front of cameras from the news media, local government and any public citizens that wished to make their own records ... along with laws requiring proof of identity in order to vote.

13 posted on 08/31/2003 11:47:41 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
That's my point it's only the DUmmies who care about this issue, why? They can't stand the fact that there will be only one vote and no recounts. There can't be recounts because the first tally will be perfect, no complications.

This is thier worry, not ours.
14 posted on 08/31/2003 11:56:30 AM PDT by Americalover
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To: Theyknow
Drudge always has a controversial issue on his site on Sunday to promote his Sunday night radio show.
15 posted on 08/31/2003 12:00:53 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Uncle Hal
But there is no controversy. Right?
16 posted on 08/31/2003 12:02:01 PM PDT by Americalover
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To: Theyknow
Way back in 1972 the Republican party in ohio knew that Democrats steal votes.

I attended a strategy meeting on behalf of Jim Rhodes who was the Repubican nominee for Governor. The Democrats were running incumbant Governor Giligan. I remember being told that rural Ohio would have to over come the estimated 50,000 votes the democrats would steal from the voting machines in Cleveland.

Well election day came and the vote counting began. I was doing ohio coverage. At about 2 Am with the inner city precincts of Cleveland still out Rhodes was barely ahead in the count. There was no way he could win. So Rhodes conceeded and went home to bed.

Shortly their after Cleveland came in. And Rhodes had carried cleveland by a slim margin and was elected Governor to a 4 year term.

Al Wallace, a Rhodes assistant went to Rhodes Upper Arlington home to awake Rhodes and tell him he had won. It turned out the Cuyahoga Co. Demoratic party chief was ticked off at Governor Gilligan and did not steal a sligle vote for him.

For the democrats computerized voting machines are a death warrent. Just as they did in Florida in 2000 Democrats depend on stealing votes in inner city precincts where in contravetnion of law all the poll watchers are Democrats. It is true in the inner precincts of every big city all the poll watchers are Democrats. It is against the law, but the area is so dangerous every republican is afraid to set foot in the precinct. It gives Democrats a million opportunities to cheat and steal hundreds of thouands of votes nationwide. But computerized voting where the machines can be remotely monitored by both parties brings the cheating to a halt.

Democrats are very afraid of honesty.

17 posted on 08/31/2003 12:02:27 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Americalover
There can't be recounts because the first tally will be perfect, no complications.

Unless a RAT programmer saw to it that the numbers were being incorrectly inflated all along. Then the only thing that's perfect is the crime.

18 posted on 08/31/2003 12:05:47 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
But we already know that these companies are run by Republicans so that isn't a worry. If Hitlery owned them it would be somehting to worry about. But the good guys are in charge here.
19 posted on 08/31/2003 12:08:15 PM PDT by Americalover
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To: Theyknow
Not to knock Drudge, but this is old news. Click here for a NewsMax story on a similar subject from a month ago.
20 posted on 08/31/2003 12:09:22 PM PDT by mewzilla
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